In this episode of the Super Strength Show, Tony Gentilcore takes us on his journey to becoming a Strength & Conditioning Coach, Writer, Co-Founder of Cressey Sport Performance, and Owner of TonyGentilcore.com. During the interview, Tony teaches you the importance of earning your worth and learning from others, so you can become a better strength coach.
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[0:00:20] RT: What’s up Strength Maniacs? And thanks for tuning in. I’m pleased to welcome today’s guest Tony Gentilcore. Tony is a strength and conditioning coach based out of Boston, one of my favorite cities man, love that place and is one of the cofounders of Cressey Sports Performance where he served as one of the head coaches from 2007 until the fall of 2015.
He is now working out of a small studio in Boston where he works with a wide variety of people and athletes. Tony’s work has been featured in many reputable fitness and health publications including tnation.com, Men’s Health, Women’s Health, Men’s Fitness, bodybuilding.com and Stack. You can connect with him by visiting his website at tonygentilcore.com. That’s T-o-n-y-G-e-n-t-i-l-c-o-r-e.com.
[0:01:04] RT: Tony, welcome to the show, pleasure to have you here man, it’s been a bit of a build up because we have had more than one guest prior to this here. So I’m eager to get in to this.
[0:01:14] TG: No, this is great and first of all, I got to say Ray, you have the most sultry podcast voice I have ever listened to in all the podcast I’ve done, this is amazing.
[0:01:22] RT: You’re making me blush.
[0:01:25] TG: It’s like the perfect voice for that sultry radio voice like, “Hey everyone, this is —welcome to the show!” It’s amazing, I love it.
[0:01:32] RT: Yeah, I got to figure out how to use this to my advantage one way or the other.
[0:01:34] TG: Yeah.
[0:01:36] RT: Alright, so I’m wondering, how about you tell us a bit more about yourself. That was like the tip of the ice berg as I always say when we got these little quick intros or bios on somebody. You were at Cressey’s, you’re a co-founder, one of — I mean Cressey’s is definitely one of the top spots around.
[0:01:49] TG: Yeah, Eric and I, it’s weird, I joke about it, I joke about it now but back then, it was kind of weird and Eric and I met on the Internet back in 2004, 2005 when it was kind of still sort of shady to be meeting people on the Internet.
[0:02:04] RT: Yeah, it was questionable right? I was going to say, love at first sight.
[0:02:07] TG: Now it’s just like, “Yeah whatever.” I graduated school, I was working as a corporate personal trainer and commercial on fitness trainer for about five years and then Eric and I knew each other through various websites like T Nation and a couple of other separate sites that we both were members of. Once he graduated from U CON he got a job at a gym in Connecticut and he kind of knew I was inkling and kind of itching to get out of central New York which isn’t necessarily the mecca of personal training income and he’s like, “Hey dude, I got this job, they’re looking for another trainer, you should come out to Connecticut.”
I was like, “Alright, cool, I’ll look in to it,” and I had to kind of explain to my mom that, “Hey, I met this guy on the internet, we’re moving up to Connecticut,” and she was kind of like, “Uh, what’s going on here?” But obviously, things turned out well. Eric and I were together at a gym in Connecticut for about a year. then we both moved to Boston in the fall of 2006 and he was working at another gym, I was working at a high end gym in the city for about nine or 10 months and then we opened up along with our friend Peter Dupuis, Cressey Sports Performance in the summer of 2007.
Very tiny shit hole, like 2,200 square feet, put up our walls, we rented space inside of an indoor batting facility for baseball players. Which obviously parled very well into working with baseball players and Eric with his history of shoulder anatomy and knowing the shoulder very well, it led to us working a lot of pictures, local high school pitchers and some local teams. Which then transpired into some collegiate level baseball players into some more professional base players to the point where you say Cressey Sports Performance now, especially in the realm of baseball, you’d be hard pressed to listen other facility that ranks higher as far as training baseball players, evaluating baseball players, writing programming for them and understanding the mechanisms of the sport and what the requirements are.
And yeah, I’ve been there since 2007 and it’s just of late within two months ago that I left and just pursuing some other opportunities here in Boston and it definitely wasn’t an easy decision to make but it’s one that has allowed me a little bit more autonomy and freedom to kind of do my own thing and I’ve spent the past eight years building my own brand as well. As you noted in the intro. I do a fair amount of writing and have a name of myself. So I’ve been able to, been fortunate enough to build a pretty good reputation within the industry and very fortunate that people trust me enough to pay me good money to train them. It’s worked out pretty well.
[0:04:56] RT: I don’t’ know about fortunate man, you earned it.
[0:04:59] TG: There’s too, there’s a little bit of — I like to keep a little bit of humbleness and humility within myself, I’d have to think that a big of a deal. But you’re right, I’m approaching 13, 14 years in the industry and then eight years with helping to build a well-known facility and brand. It’s definitely a lot — it’s been a lot of hard work and it’s cool that I’m at a point now where I’m able to still coach, I’m coaching now maybe 15 or so hours a week and on the side and still doing a fair amount of writing on my website and for various publications. I’m able to travel and do workshops. It’s been pretty cool to build things to a point where I’m able to kind of like set my own schedule and not have to be under the iron fist of the man. I’m in a good spot now, I have no complaints.
[0:05:51] RT: Yeah man, it’s a beautiful thing. You’ve, like you said, struck on your own, you got that autonomy and now you can express yourself the way that you feel is true to you right?
[0:05:59] TG: Yeah, and Boston is a lovely city, obviously the history of course and me being a history buff and all that but then obviously, it’s a huge sports town and especially professional sports and you got, I don’t even know what the last number was as far as the amount of Universities and colleges that are here but it’s an awesome city to live in. Again, I have no complaints.
[0:06:23] RT: Yeah, Boston is awesome like you said, it’s got that history but at the same time you look across the way there and you see all those universities right? MIT and I mean you’ve got everything there, Harvard and it’s just interesting because it’s an interesting mix of academia, history, this hustle and bustle of just a good sized city.
You and I we talked about this, it’s just this awesome size, I was telling you, Boston to New York is kind of like Montreal to Toronto, just the overall size and the vibe, it’s not so massive it takes you forever to get across town but it still has everything you want. That’s one of the beautiful things that living in a big city, especially a really big city, you got everything.
[0:07:01] TG: Especially me coming from middle of nowhere of New York, corn fields and dairy farms.
[0:07:05] RT: Yeah, which you don’t normally combine that with New York when you think of that, when you think of New York. But New York is a big state, people forget that right? It’s not just the Big Apple.
[0:07:13] TG: I say I’m from New York. And they’re lie, “Oh, New York City?” “No, upstate, New York’s a very big state. There’s more to New York than just the city.”
[0:07:21] RT: Yeah, exactly. It’s a city, city as in like, it’s just one of — yeah, never mind, moving on. “Where’s the accent man?” It’s like, “Oh god.”
[0:07:31] TG: No, no accent. Even now I say I’m from Boston, anyone who watches movies knows that the Boston Accent can be notorious as far as how it sounds and I’ve been here long enough now where it’s like, when I’m watching a movie and it’s a Boston based movie, I can call BS on the Boston accent.
[0:07:55] RT: On the accent? Yeah.
[0:07:57] TG: That’s not a very good accent. It’s cool.
[0:08:02] RT: But Damon and Affleck, they had it down pretty good man.
[0:08:05] TG: They can do no wrong here.
[0:08:09] RT: They did good man.
[0:08:09] TG: They’re the golden child of the city, those two guys.
[0:08:13] RT: The Town, that movie was great, anyway, we’re getting sidetracked man, Boston is great, if nobody’s been in Boston, go to Boston, it’s fun man. If you just enjoy good eats, good history as we said there’s just so much stuff to check out the architecture, there’s a lot of cool things man. It’s a lot of fun there. Alright, Now we’re both waiting for our commission check from the tourism board here of Boston, that would be great.
[0:08:34] TG: We got to give you a check for that.
[0:08:35] RT: Okay, alright, Tony, let’s hop in to the first main question of the show and that is sharing one of your favorite success quotes and the example of how you apply it to your training in life.
[0:08:44] TG: Yeah, assuming that with this show, there’s a lot of fitness professionals listening in, personal trainers, coaches. There’s one quote that I always gravitate towards and that’s you have two eyes, two ears and one mouth. You need to use them in that order. That’s something that struck a chord with me. I think the first person I heard say it was Mike Boyle who is a very well-known coach within the fitness and strength and conditioning community.
To me, it’s one of those things where I use it in a sense that I’m always striving to learn in what other people’s viewpoints are and their point of views are and trying to make myself better. I don’t pretend to know all the answers. I’m pretty confident that if a client or athlete comes to you with a question, whether it’s on anatomy or program design or an injury. I’ll be able to answer it but certainly I’m not scared to say like, “Hey man, I don’t know the answer to that right now but I’m going to find it for you,” and I’m lucky enough that I have a big enough network where I can email guys like Erik Cressey or Mike Robertson or Brett Contreras or any of these guys or Jim Sinkler. I can find the answer.
And that quote that I eluded to is just one that’s always struck a chord in me when I was a younger professional. It’s one that I kind of pay it forward to upcoming fitness professionals because I feel like there’s a lot of, a small sense of entitlement that comes with — they feel like whether they just left school or they just got certified and they feel like they’re going to walk into a six figure income and they’re going to have, the clients are just going to show up. And the reality sinks in pretty quickly that that’s not the case that I think the average personal trainer makes about 35 grand a year.
They burn up pretty quickly because we work when others don’t and that’s just the nature of our industry. And a lot of times too, we kind of get very stuck in our ways as far as maybe our education coming through school, that is important and that lays the foundation but that certainly isn’t what you should hold on to for a five year career or 10 year career or whatnot. You need to constantly seek out workshops and seminars and conferences and DVD’s and books and always try to get, just immerse yourself in other people’s viewpoints and help that and hopefully that’s going to help shape your philosophy and your approach but that is always evolving.
There’s stuff that I did five, six, seven years ago that I would cringe at right now. I think any competent trainer, coach, fitness professional should be able to say that. You can look at a program that you wrote two, three, four, five plus years ago and be like, “Woah, what was I thinking then?” You should be always evolving and that’s why I always gravitate to that two eyes, two ears, one mouth. Learn from others first, watch what they do, listen to what they have to say before you spout out, “Oh I know the answers and my opinion matters,” and I just think it’s an important quote to kind of gravitate towards for a lot of fitness professionals.
[0:11:56] RT: Agreed, yeah, like you said in regards to people who now have put in time and school or some type of a program to get a certificate and then they have the sense of entitlement and they show up and they believe and sometimes it’s because it’s sold to them that once you get this degree or whatever it may be, you’re golden right?
[0:12:13] TG: Yeah, like I’ve heard various commercials, “Oh get certified,” and I won’t name the certification and welcome to a six figure salary. I just laugh because I’m like, “Man, it took me,” — you’re not going to walk into a six figure anything in this industry, it’s not going to happen.
[0:12:33] RT: Yeah, the guys who tend to walk in, the guys and gals tend to walk in a six figure careers after getting some type of certification tend to be lawyers, doctors and dentists and they tend to be burdened with all kinds of debt afterwards, they paid for that. In terms of people who may have that misconception, the reality is, maybe all that’s done man, it’s the equivalent of just lacing up your sneakers right? That’s the equivalent, you just laced up your sneakers and showed up at the starting line.
Now we got to put in work, right? This is all that that degree showed, it just showed us that you know how to put your sneakers on in the right feet and you dressed up properly, now you’re kind of ready to run the race per se. It’s questionable whether or not you’re truly ready to run and win the race but you’re at least ready to get into the race.
[0:13:18] TG: Yeah, there are so many other variables that come to being a successful trainer. Success doesn’t equate to money, that doesn’t mean anything, there’s plenty of garbage trainers that are making good money and there are plenty of brilliant trainers that aren’t making a lot of money but then even then there’s so many other variables as far as how to build rapport and social interactions and it isn’t just about, I mean I think you should have a base foundation of knowing anatomy and knowing program design, knowing evaluation and assessment which that lead many trainers don’t.
But two, there’s a human component to it and a social component to it. I’m an introvert by nature but there’s a sliding scale of introvert/extrovert. No one has ever truly 100% introvert, 100% extrovert, there’s like a sliding scale but when I’m coaching, I have to be more on, I can’t just be like this quiet mouse and I’m not a ra ra coach. I’m not one of those coaches that’s slapping people’s asses like, “Yeah, let’s do this, get some.” I’ll turn it on when I have to or if someone is going to play a PR or something like that.
I’m more of, I am observing and I’m looking at people’s technique and I’ll coach them up after their set and I try to be a little bit more of a gentle giant so to speak. There’s so many variables that come in to being a successful fitness professional, certainly the knowledge base of knowing anatomy and program design come in to play. But then the social component and being able to just be, having a rapport with various levels of clients. I tell every trainer that comes in the industry, they owe it to themselves to work in the commercial gym setting for two, three years right out of the gate.
Many trainers feel like they’re above that, like, “Oh I went to school, I got the certification. I’m going to train professional athlete’s right out of the gate.” Again, that’s not going to happen and I think if you take the time to work in the commercial gym and have access to such a wide array of personalities and goals and injuries and perspectives that you’re going to become a better trainer in the end. Again, two ears, two eyes, one mouth, use them in that order.
[0:15:41] RT: Yeah, definitely agreed, so much more that you can learn right?
[0:15:45] TG: If there’s coaches like — listen, there are coaches that I started reading when I came in the industry like Mike Boyle, Dan John, Grey Cook and these are guys that have been coaching for 25, 30, some of them 40 years. They’re still learning and they’re still admitting when they’re wrong and they’re still changing their view points and their approach to things. If they’re doing it, why the hell wouldn’t I do that?
[0:16:10] RT: Exactly.
[0:16:11] TG: I’ve worked with various commercial gyms in the past where I’ve had conversations with other trainers where I’ve already learned all I needed to learn and I know what I need to know. I just roll my eyes and be like, “That’s unfortunate. Honestly there’s so much to learn.” There’s nothing new to be said in this industry but you don’t know everything and nor should you know everything that’s why you build a network around yourself to — you know physical therapist, you know strength coaches, you know nutritionist, you know massage therapist, you can kind of refer people to.
[0:16:43] RT: Yeah, good point.
[0:16:44] TG: Or glean information from, you shouldn’t be expected to know everything and that’s a whole another conversation where you get those trainers that kind of go into more of the physical therapy mindset. That’s a whole another conversation but yeah. You should constantly be striving to get better and continuing that is a huge component being a successful trainer.
[0:17:06] RT: Yeah, I think it was Socrates, I’m not sure but he basically said something along the lines of, “I know nothing right?”
[0:17:10] TG: Yeah, if anyone’s going to say something as profound as that then it would be him right?
[0:17:14] RT: Exactly, yeah.
[0:17:16] TG: It’s very true.
[0:17:17] RT: The more I learn, the more I realize what I don’t know, right?
[0:17:21] TG: It’s so true.
[0:17:24] RT: It’s like Wikipedia, just go on to Wikipedia if you like learning anything, go on to Wikipedia and you start reading about I don’t know man, working out and then all of a sudden before you know it, within a few minutes or actually, it’s like more like within a few hours, you’re learning about Orion drive and genetic manipulation of sea horses and you’re like, how in the world did I, I got to get out of here man.
[0:17:44] TG: How did this take me here?
[0:17:45] RT: Yeah, exactly, before I get in to the really weird side of the internet, I need to get the heck off of this man. Tony, I got a question here for you, next one which is sharing a story of a time in your training when you encountered a major challenge and why don’t you take us back man, paint the picture, let us know the story man and the lessons that you learned?
[0:18:02] TG: I’m a strength coach and as such, I like getting people’s strong, being a strength coach requires that you would think I would have a base level of strength to be able to practice what I preach, which I think is important as a fitness professional. If I’m going to coach somebody how to deadlift and work on their building their deadlifts, I should be competent with that lift and have a pretty good deadlift.
I’m someone who has pulled a three times body weight deadlift, my best deadlift is 570 pounds at a body weight of 190. My goal is to get to a 600 pound deadlift. Because of my body type, I’m a pretty lean guy, I’m not someone who is, I’ve always been lean, I hover around 10% body fat year round. That’s just my body type, it’s what I’ve always been, depending on some certain dietary tweaks I make, I can get lower and what not, that’s never really a goal of mine.
But because of my leanness and my wanting to be lean, every time that I’ve tried to approach that 600 pound deadlift. I get to the point I’m pulling 550 and almost inevitably, my back will throw me the middle finger and be like, “Nope dude, we’re done.” I can’t tell you how many times that has happened, I hit my 570 and I was, “Yeah, let’s do it.” You kind of back off a little bit because you can’t be pulling that heavy 90% plus for weeks on end because your body is just going to — it’s going to take a pounding.
You do your ebbs and flows and you block your, you do block purification and all that stuff but every time I would kind of work my way back up. Okay, I’m going to attempt for this 600 pound deadlift, I would hit that border of 550 and inevitably my back would just be like, something would tweak, give me a setback. When that stated happening, I kind of had to seek out someone else’s perspective of another coach which I feel is important.
I’m a coach and I have a coach. I feel there’s no shame in saying that, I always say the hardest person to train is yourself. Even coaches need coaches. So I sought out the help of a fellow Cressey Sports Performance coach, Greg Robins who has been working with me for the past, a little over a year now and I had to kind of address some postural issues, as far as many fitness professionals, we stand a lot, we’re in more of a state of extension, lumbar extension. Whereas your computer or office worker is more of in a state of inflection, they’re hunched over all day.
[0:20:47] RT: Okay, just quickly, if you don’t mind explaining it. Lumbar extension, what does that mean exactly?
[0:20:55] TG: Well there’s a natural Lordotic curve in the lumbar spine.
[0:20:58] RT: What does that mean? What’s Lordotic curve?
[0:21:00] TG: It’s more of like a concave curvature of the spine where there’s a degree of anterior pelvic tilt, it’s tilted in a certain way where the front of the pelvis is tilted forward.
[0:21:15] RT: Yeah, like duck butt right? Like you’re sticking your butt out.
[0:21:17] TG: Exactly. Very good analogy, thank you Ryan. As a fitness professional I tend to be in the state of more over extended posture. There’s a natural Lordotic curve or extension of the spine and now I’m just so kind of to the point where I’m past that point of normalcy where I’m over extended and it’s just putting a lot of pressure on my spine and then when I got to life heavy weight, I’m in that massive extension again. Basically, long story short is I had to work with Greg to work on my pelvic positioning, working on little postural stuff and try to get into a little bit more of anatomical neutral which take pressure off my lower back and just work on my setup and building my core strength back up.
It was kind of a tough pill to swallow to say, “Alright, I got to back it off a lot to the point where okay, I got to lay off the deadlifts for a couple of months,” which to me, I love deadlifting and for me to tell me not to deadlift for two or three months to address stuff, which is something I would, if anyone came to me with the same issues as their coach, I would tell them to do the same thing. Okay, we got to work on some postural stuff, we have to work on a little course stability and work on some core strength and address some issues that you’re having of why you always get hurt.
I needed somebody to tell me to do that. So I hired a coach, Greg took me to some progressive programming to kind of get me back to the point where now I’m pulling pain free and kind of working my way back up to hopefully fingers crossed, that 600 pound deadlift. The moral of the story is, sometimes you’re your own worst enemy and you kind of have to get out of your own way a little bit and seek out the help of somebody else who knows what they’re talking about.
We like to do what we’re good a,t which is why a lot of people, they like to run, they like to do yoga, they like to do pilates or they like to do bodybuilding and sometimes because we like to do certain things, we tend to get over compensation patterns where you get the same pattern over and over and we develop imbalances and that’s where we kind of develop injuries or the potential for injuries.
Yeah, I hired Greg and now we’re kind of working our way back up to that deadlift where hopefully now that I’m at a point where I’m hitting that threshold of the mid 500’s, that hopefully now my back won’t flip me that preverbal middle finger and I can kind of work my way back up again.
[0:23:56] RT: Yeah man, a lot of people, it’s interesting, they think that guys lifting big weight just a bunch of meat heads or something. I lift weights but that’s not all.
[0:24:08] TG: I think there’s a degree of guys like myself and you and a lot of people listening, there’s a degree of meathead in all of us. Hey, we’re going to lift heavy weights and get big but that’s only going to take you so far. To me as a coach, I’m more of a mindset that it really comes down to the quality of removing it and it isn’t necessarily — there is an element of lifting heavy weight where you have to challenge the body in order to make progress.
It’s progressive overload. Doing a little bit more work over a duration of time, that is an important component but a lot of it too is, the quality of your movement. When I’m coaching somebody and they tell me, I have a 400 pound deadlift and I want to get to 450, a lot of times, I’m going to back them down to 315, 350 you know, we’re talking like 60 to 80% of their one rep max and that’s going to be their wheelhouse because I know within those parameters and those percentages, I can build their volume up within those percentages and know that the quality of their movement is going to be on point and good.
To the point where they’re building volume within that percentage base and that’s going to help them get to that higher peak, that higher strength peak. To the point where we don’t have to be crushing weights of 80, 85, 90% of one rep max all the time. We can build volume within that 60 to 80% range and then build the quality of their training there and that in of itself is going to help them get stronger. That’s not to say that I’m not sporadically putting in lifts at 85% or 90% here and there. Just kind of like see how much progress we’re making.
But to me, I think a lot of people get into the mindset that more is better, I have to do more and more. I have to hammer myself at the gym every day to the point where I’m like dragging butt on the way out, I’m in a pool of sweat and to me, I feel like most people would benefit by leaving the gym refreshed and wanting more.
[0:26:10] RT: Yeah.
[0:26:10] TG: Then, not only are they going to make better progress in the long haul, they’re going to prevent injuries, they’re going to feel refreshed and then the good things are going to —neurologically they’re going to feel good, mentally they’re going to feel good. They’re going to be motivated to train. I think those two — I can appreciate and respect people who want to get effort at the gym every day. I get it. That’s great, I wish more people had that mentality but we can’t go into the mindset that we have to go to the gym to win every day. Win, win, win, win, win!
Sometimes you got to back it off a little bit just to give yourself a break a little bit of a mental break too. I think that’s the message that I try to relay to a lot of my athletes and my clients is that it isn’t so much that max lifts, that isn’t important to getting stronger but a lot of it just comes down to the quality of movement and making sure our technique is on point.
[0:27:04] RT: Yeah, look. When you go crazy balls to the walls and you’re lifting near maximum loads all the time, it feels like you’re making more progress. If you map out your progress over a certain period of time, probably more on the long haul. Whatever, six months, 12 months or even longer. You don’t need to go out years and years. Just half a year even, in all likelihood, the guys who is training within the range that you’re talking about, if you get a guy or gal to train with a 60 to 80%.
At first, sure, they may not jump out the gate like a maniac with big weights but in all likelihood, they’re going to end up further ahead than the other person. I’m not even talking about because the other person may get injured. You just burn out because you’re maxing out so much at some point you’re gonna hit a wall.
[0:27:46] TG: One thing to consider too Ray is a lot of reason why people break down when they start lifting heavier weights is because there’s some form of weakness or technique flaws. If we use the lower percentage based training and build the volume to the point where we’re addressing those weaknesses and those technique falls. That’s where our accessory work comes in to play.
[0:28:08] RT: Exactly.
[0:28:09] TG: Then we can actually exhibit those strength qualities that we need to lift those heavier loads.
[0:28:16] RT: Well you can identify your saying yeah, you can identify the problem and because you’re not jumping crazy amount of weight and going crazy from workout to work out, you have time to throw in the accessory work to shore up that weakness so you can continue on with whatever main lift you’re working on our lifts. In a way, training is kind of like you’re painting a room, you’re painting a floor and stuff like that, I don’t know why you paint a floor but anyway.
[0:28:39] TG: Some people do.
[0:28:41] RT: I guess, but anyway. The room is consistently trying to force you into the corner and you’re going to paint yourself into the corner. You need to be aware of what you’re doing because your head’s down here working and you don’t realize, all of a sudden you’re like, “Damn, I’m in a corner, how do I get out of here?” And you got to get out of there without leaving footprints and a mess everywhere.
One or two different things are going to have to happen here, you either need to keep your two eyes kind of going here, you need one on your work and one on your training to make sure you’re not jammed into the corner to the point where you can’t back out without making — becoming this whole fiasco or you’re going to end up in a corner and then it becomes an issue to actually get out of it. Either way, requires you to use your noggin right?
Like we were saying earlier, you’re not just some dumb meat head because if you are, you’re just going to end up not only going to the corner but probably putting your head through the wall and then that’s the end of it right? This is also another reason why having a trainer is so important because you need to put the work in and by having somebody who is helping guide you along with the programming and keeping an eye on you and looking up for issues and whatnot.
It really helps because ultimately, what we have is our focus right? It could be argued that that’s kind of our ultimate currency is our focus. Just like in the military, if you focus, it’s like a force multiplier right? If you’re focus is laser like on a certain thing, you tend to do much, much, much better than it’s dispersed over a bunch of things. How is this rep going, putting in the proper effort, am I really feeling the groove or the muscle working depending if you’re doing power lifting or body building.
“Is my form right, how is that weakness that was showing up the other day. I got this little bit of injury, it’s bugging me. Is my training all right, did I get my nutrition cooked up for this week, I don’t remember if I cooked everything right? I think I overcooked the beans,” and then all of a sudden, you’re not getting a great workout right?
[0:30:20] TG: Yeah. You brought up a point in the last two sentences you said. I think a lot of people too don’t push themselves enough. You have one end of the spectrum where people are like, go, go, go, go, win, win, win, win I got to crush myself every day. Then you have the other end of the spectrum where people who don’t push themselves enough. I find that, men do it a lot but I find while the women that I train start in that realm, they even program, indoctrinated to think that it’s high reps, low weight, the weights are, the free weights are for the guys and the girls are more elliptical and stair master. I hate that.
Every female that I work with, I am always trying to get them to buy and do more from a performance based goal, do your first chin up, we’re going to do 10 pushups, we’re going to deadlift your bodyweight for reps.
[0:31:13] RT: Yeah, because it gives them what they’re looking for right?
[0:31:15] TG: Exactly, we all want to look good naked, there’s a degree of that and to me, a lot of the times, the amount and effort and the work and the dedication is going to take to get to the point where you can do a clean one chin up with your bodyweight, you’re going to get the back side that you want and the delts that you want and the booty that you want. Without having other focus on these body part splits and low weight, high reps.
[0:31:40] RT: Really inefficient.
[0:31:42] TG: As a coach this is me saying, “Hey, we need to up the ante here.” So part of my job as a coach is to kind of pull the reins on some people, work on technique and hold them back a little bit and then at the other end of the spectrum, part of my job as a coach is to push them a little bit more and educate them and to get them and to get them to buy into performance based goals and strength is a good thing and strength is kind of the base of everything you would ever want to improve anyways where there’s power, agility, speed, even aesthetics.
There aren’t many guys who have a two times body weight dead lift who are pulling 500 plus pounds or whatever who don’t look like they lift weights, you know what I mean? Same thing with women, there are plenty of women — to me, Dan Jon uses this analogy quite a bit. If you’re a woman and lifting 20 pounds is challenging then there’s an issue there. Whereas, he tells a story, I forget the name he used, we’ll say Tiffany.
Tiffany is a woman who can bang out five to 10 chin ups at any given point, you could point to a chin up bar, she can walk up to it and bang out five to 10 chin ups. She’s somebody who because she has that base level of strength, she probably looks pretty good, she can have cake, she doesn’t have to worry about going to some kind of dinner party and fretting over, “Oh my god, I had a piece of cake.” She’s got her strength on point, everything’s kind of in place to where she looks good.
Whereas if you’re somebody on the other end of the spectrum where literally 20 pounds is daunting and challenging to you then yeah, you’re going to be somebody who is going to nitpick over having an apple, which boggles my mind. People nitpick, it’s an apple people. I’ve heard people fret, “Oh my god, there’s carbohydrates in apples, should I eat an apple?” And I’m like, “Eat the freaking apple.”
[0:33:38] RT: There’s oxygen and air, are you going to oxalate and die, should you not breathe?
[0:33:43] TG: Yeah, there’s a spectrum of course and there’s a middle ground and everything. Again, that comes down to being a coach, we need to couch our clients. As a trainer, you’re not just there to count reps and like, bullshit over last night’s episode of How to Get Away with Murder. You coach your clients. That’s what they’re paying you for. Technique, program design, evaluation, all of that matters and all of this is going to help people get into the point where they want to be with their aesthetics and their performance based goals and getting them out of pain and it all matters.
[0:34:20] RT: Alright, Tony, we’re coming up to the break but I got another question I want to fit in here quickly. You may have already answered it, who knows? Because we elaborated quite a bit on the prior one. But it basically has to do with sharing a time of your trading, where you had kind of like a breakthrough moment, like a realization. If you could tell us the steps that you took, to kind of take that realization and develop it and extrapolate and get those success lessons out of it.
[0:34:41] TG: I think a breakthrough moment for me was in the past year too, as a coach and as somebody who works with a lot of people is respecting a little bit more of the percentage based approach. I’m taking that more with more and more people because I feel like. If you look at many of those successful strength based programs that are out there. Like 531, juggernaut method, cube method, so a lot of these programs that are designed to get people stronger which in and of itself are also designed to get people more muscle and leaner and whatever. Again, I feel strength is the base for everything.
If you look at a lot of those programs, the bulk of their work is done in that 60 to 80% range. But then of course, their varying set rep schemes and resting in roles and doing rest pause. They’re changing stuff up from a month to month basis. Percentage based trading to me just gives people goal, it holds people accountable and it kind of ensures that they’re taking a progressive approach to their training. Because you know as well as I do Ray that there are plenty of people who are doing the same program in the same order, the same weight, the same sets and reps and they get bored with their training and I would too. I’d want to throw my head through a brick wall if I were doing.
To me, with percentage based training, it gives people purpose and a goal of their trading. That to me is the coup de grace of anyone listening. You need to have a purpose of why you’re going to the gym every day. Whether it’s an overriding theme of I want to deadlift X amount of weight or I want to accomplish this, I want to do my first muscle up or I want to be one percent body fat for a photo shoot, I don’t care. As long as you have some kind of goal or purpose of training, that is going to make such a huge and profound difference in people’s approach to their training. To me, that percentage based training does give people a little bit of an element of that.
[0:36:45] RT: Alright, sounds good. When we get in to some of the recommended resources, maybe you could point us in to the direction of a few if you would help people with that.
[0:36:52] TG: Of course, yeah.
[0:36:52] RT: Excellent. Alright guys, we’re at a break and you are listening to the Super Strength Show. Man, we got Tony Gentilcore. Guys, he’s bringing it, not holding anything back, that’s one of the reasons why I love bringing guests on to the show and I really appreciate it Tony. Hold on, be right back with the Gentle giant, isn’t that how you, what you referred to yourself a little earlier?
[0:37:11] TG: I might have to take that back. That’s not remotely badass.
[0:37:15] RT: That didn’t slip by. Because people, he’s gentle to the core, ladies, he’s taken. So please forward your emails over to me and I’ll filter them through and actually won’t send any over to him because I don’t think Mrs. Gentilcore will appreciate that. Anyway, okay, enough goofing around, we’re going to take a break, be right back guys. Hold on to your ear buds, your weights, your dumbbells, be right back.
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[0:38:43] RT: Okay guys, back with our guest Tony Gentilcore from tonygentilcore.com. Tony, training resource, we kind of mentioned it leading into the break here. Wondering, what could you recommend if there’s one you could pick and if you have one or two, that’s cool also but what could you recommend to our listeners here?
[0:38:58] TG: I think, first of all, there’s a section on my website called resources. I have a litany of training, nutrition, writing, business, all that. Personal development that are all kind of like my go to sources. So if anyone’s ever interested, there’s probably over a hundred books, DVD’s digital products, articles that I always point people to anyways. As far as training resources, I really feel like an underrated resource that a lot of people don’t gravitate towards or use is going to observe other coaches.
[0:39:38] RT: Oh yeah, that’s a good one. I like that, I never heard that before but that’s good.
[0:39:42] TG: Rather than saying, “Hey, go read this book.” Because I mean when you think about it, books are outdated, outside of an eBook realm. A lot of the books that have been, it’s like a two, three, maybe four year process of a book of being written, published and given to the public and then by the time it comes out, the coach, whoever wrote it probably changed their thought process and a couple of things.
That’s not to say there aren’t books that I highly recommend. I love Easy Strength by Dan Jon, I love the NSEA’s book, I love Mike Boyle’s Advances in Functional Training, those to me are all very palatable, easy reads for anyone to read, they’re not going to make you your head hurt by reading a page. Because to me, books like Super Training, I’ve never read and never will read because it’s just so hard to read.
[0:40:37] RT: Yeah, it’s interesting. It gets recommended a lot but pretty much everybody says, you got to take it chunk by chunk.
[0:40:43] TG: I think people say it just sound smart and they say because that’s what’s supposed to be said. I know plenty of coaches and colleagues of mine who have never read that book and are perfectly well articulated coaches who know their shit. To me, it is a resource, don’t get me wrong, it’s a superb book. I’ve never read it and it’s not a page turner I’ll tell you that and it makes my head hurt. I read a page, and I’m like, “What the hell did I just read?”
I’d rather point people to resources that aren’t going to be over their heads, that still giving them the same information but done in a way that is applicable and it can be done that day. I think you’re never going to top actually going to a facility and observing the staff and the coaches and actions. When I was in Cressey Sports Performance, I couldn’t tell you the enumerable people, for fitness professionals and not who just want to come and maybe ask a few questions but observe the staff and how we queue exercises, how we troubleshoot exercises, how we take somebody through an assessment, what we’re looking for.
So to me, that is more valuable than reading a book because then you’re actually seeing it in action. It’s one thing to — because there’s plenty of people that can read how to coach up a deadlift then you put them in front of a real live person and have him do it, they’re a walking ball of fail. They read it and they’re like, might even be able to explain it but to do it in person and to actually coach somebody through a deadlift or a squat, it’s not a pretty sight.
To actually see a coach doing it in person, that which is why I love listening to guys like Mike Robertson and Dan Jon who just to hear them how they queue certain exercises or how they troubleshoot with certain exercises or how they regress or progress an exercise, that to me is the Bee’s knees. That’s the training resource most people need to be gravitating towards rather than me saying read this book. I’d rather go see the person who wrote that book in action rather than reading with the words, you know what I mean?
[0:42:49] RT: Definitely. I’ve heard people, not people, I’ve heard supposed studies where they said, just seeing somebody perform at a high level actually has a positive influence on the observer. If you’re really into golf, watching Tiger Woods golf will help you improve your game or whoever it may be.
[0:43:04] TG: Yeah, so I think going to a Cressey Sports Performance or an iFast or any number of facilities that are around the country in the world to go see people in action. Even if, I mean hell, you could probably just go to a commercial gym and ask them, “Hey, can I watch one of your top — can I shadow a trainer?” Or even if you’re listening, you’re in a certain part of the country and you know of a coach within that — more often than not, people are very accommodating.
If you wanted to say, “Come in and shadow,” and you’re going to use the two ears, two eyes and one mouth protocol and just shut up and just watch them. I think that’s going to have a more profound influence on people’s questions and concerns on anything than just reading the book.
[0:43:51] RT: Agreed, agreed. That’s actually a really good bit of advice. It may not be a bad idea to read the book first then go check them out because then you’re kind of up to speed right? And you can ask better questions.
[0:44:01] TG: That’s not to say that I’m telling people not to read the books because again, there are — I’m looking at my books right now, Science and Practice of Strength Training, I got Low Back Disorders by McGill, Athletic Body Balance by Gray Cook, Facts and Fallacies of Fitness by Mel Stiff, Anatomy Training, like I have all these books on my bookshelves that I’ve read. Powerlifting by Tim Enriquez.
Anyone who is interested in powerlifting, that book tells you all about the sport, the history of this sport, the rules of the sport, breaks on the deadlift, breaks on the squat, breaks on the bench press. Starting Strength, Movement by Gray Cook. All these books are wonderful books to read and are going to give you an information but…
[0:44:42] RT: Application is a different thing right?
[0:44:44] TG: Application is an entirely different thing. There’s so many trainers out there that read all these books but then you would ask them to actually coach somebody in person. Like, “Here’s someone’s squat, something’s wrong, what is it and can you fix it?” They’d be like, they’re like a deer in headlights. That’s why I feel like it’s important that as a fitness professional, somebody who does a fair bit of writing that it is important that I’m actually coaching people.
You’d be surprised on how many people are out there who are putting out all those content of coaching people in program design and nutrition and diet but they don’t actually work with anyone. They just regurgitate all the information that they read and they kind of put it in their own words and their own perspective and shoot it out to the masses and cool, I mean you’re getting Twitter followers and Facebook likes and Instagram likes and whatnot. Honestly, if you can’t do it in person with an actual real live human being then come on dude, what’s up with that? Seeing the stuff in action counts too.
[0:45:51] RT: Agreed 100%, I got to say man, it’s the first time that’s ever been suggested, it’s a really good suggestion too. I like that.
[0:45:56] TG: I’m breaking barriers, I love it.
[0:45:57] RT: I love it. Speaking of breaking a barrier, we got to break that 88 mile an hour barrier.
[0:46:03] TG: Very nice one Ray, very good.
[0:46:04] RT: You like that? Yeah, definitely baby, I like that. Alright. You already know what I’m going to ask you right? We like to have some fun with this one, we goof around, we have a good time here but in particular man, I’d like you to get specific with a couple of items because although we are having fun and trying to have a bit of a laugh, we want people to walk away with something really useable, sounds good?
[0:46:23] TG: Yup.
[0:46:24] RT: Alright man. You are in the middle of your training, you got your setup there in Boston, you catch a whiff of something and you’re like, “Man, what the hell climbed out of the harbor and made its way towards here?” And then all of a sudden I show up and you’re like, “Alright, seriously dude, did you fall into the harbor? What’s that smell man, what’s going on here?”
I’m like, “Bud, seriously man,” I give you the key. I got to tell you, at this point, I’m just so used to that reaction I just automatically just give the key, head outside, full tank of garbage and then off you go baby, you go back in time, knowing what you know now, how would you setup your training to get the best results, in the shortest period of time but also set you up for long term success?
[0:47:01] TG: Yup. I’m going to keep this as short as possible. For 90% of the people, 90% of the time, regardless of your goal, whether it’s just fat loss, muscle gain, performance, strength, 90% of people, 90% of the time, a full body approach is going to be the way to go. Three times a week, full body, you’re focusing more on compound movements, multi joint movements, stuff like deadlifts, squats, rows, pushups, chin-ups, those are the ones that work and those are the ones that are going to make you work and those are the ones that are going to help you get results.
Because to me, I mean I’ll joke about it but a rule of mine is I’m working with a guy and he can’t do at least five chin-ups with his bodyweight then I’m not giving you an arm day. It’s a waste of time. Like why train a muscle as the size of a tennis ball for 45 minutes when I can train the entire body using a deadlift, pair it with a pushup or do a squat and pair it with a row and work multi joints, work multiple muscle groups, burn more calories, get more neural drive and stimulus in that regard. You’re going to set yourself up for better success that way.
I think everyone kind of goes for that stage where they read the Bodybuilding magazine or I grew up like many guys my age, watching Arnold and reading those magazines, “leg day, arm day, shoulder day.” It’s not wrong, you’re doing something, stuff’s going to happen, anything’s going to work, but I think as far as efficiency and what people are looking to do to get maximum results and a minimal amount of time, for most people, especially beginners and even some intermediates like following a three day week program where it’s a full body approach is going to be the way to go for a lot of people. Good things are going to happen. Focusing on getting stronger. That to me is, I gravitate towards that all the time and it never fails. I think it’s the way to go for most people.
[0:49:10] RT: Yeah, and a lot of people don’t realize, with Arnold and the stuff that they see with a lot of t hose guys, those splits, they don’t realize that they started doing exactly what you’re talking about.
[0:49:19] TG: Yeah, they were accomplished powerlifters.
[0:49:22] RT: Yeah, exactly.
[0:49:24] TG: They had pretty good deadlift and squat numbers.
[0:49:25] RT: Olympic lifters and all that stuff, right?
[0:49:27] TG: Yeah, they did all that stuff.
[0:49:29] RT: And Arnold talks about how somebody, I don’t remember where I read this but basically, you get to a point where I think what he was referring to is, you reach your genetic potential. I know guys are now thinking, “Oh what about steroids? Blah, blah, blah.” Okay, yes, okay, whether or not you use steroids, it’s more or less a similar type of concept. At some point, you kind of hit a peak in your mass, whether it’s because genetically that’s it or because you don’t want to pump any more stuff into your system to get even bigger, you know what I mean?
People are like, “Well how do you improve, now that you’ve gotten into the specific size, you’re not really getting any bigger?” And he said, well because now what I’m doing is, I’m trying to perfect certain muscle groups right? Then that starts to require you splitting things up and trying to hit things from different angles and all that craziness right? That’s a completely different training style and it has a different goal than somebody who is trying to start up and just either build up to performance or build up just the general foundational muscle size to begin with.
[0:50:24] TG: Yeah, I think that’s where a lot of people go wrong is they don’t take the time to build that base with the main movements, the big three if you want to call them that. That to me is going to be, that’s where the money is right there. It’s building the base there and then yeah, down the road if you want to get a little queue and play around with stuff, far be for me to tell you not to do that. If that’s your goal, that’s your goal.
When someone’s hiring me to give them the quickest results, the safest manner and the most time efficient way, I’m gravitating towards those multi-joint compound movements, three times a week. Of course frequency comes into play. If I have somebody more often then I might change the parameters a little bit but I might do like an upper, lower split or something like that but yeah, I feel like that for most 90% of people, 90% of the time, there you go, that’s the way to approach things.
[0:51:18] RT: Yeah, that’s the way it’s been done for hundred plus years and it’s been producing results and it will continue to produce results until we evolve into something different you know what I mean?
[0:51:26] TG: I understand, it’s not a sexy answer and I’m sure it’s been said, I’m not the first one to say it but there’s a reason why all of us are saying it, so do it.
[0:51:35] RT: Exactly, exactly. Alright, Tony, we are pretty much at the end of the show man, I want to thank you on behalf of myself and the audience. I love your enthusiasm, and I love it when I have guests on that are really enthusiastic because that is definitely contagious. Not only that, you brought some really good information man, thank you so much.
[0:51:51] TG: Thank you, I appreciate it, it’s a pleasure to come on.
[0:51:53] RT: Yeah, I felt like you didn’t hold anything back, you just opened book, here you go guys. I just absolutely love it when people do that. Where can we find out more about you and how about some parting advice too if you don’t mind?
[0:52:03] TG: Yeah. My home base is my website. tonygentilcore.com, that’s where I write all my blogs, all my articles are linked on there, my social media is on there. I would love it if people wanted to follow me and that they liked what I had to say, there’s definitely more of where that came from on my website. Then look for me in 2016, I’ll be doing a fair amount of traveling with numerous workshops around North America as well as in Europe.
I might be jumping in to my first foray into the eBook stratosphere. I’ve been holding back on that for years and people have been on me for years. Like, “Hey, when are you going to do something, when are you going to do something?” “And now that I have a little bit more time, I might be going into that as well. Look for a training program by yours truly and at some point next year and then hopefully good things will happen. 2016 is going to be pretty cool year I think.
[0:52:57] RT: Yeah, I would say so, yeah, I’d agree.
[0:52:59] TG: Lot of cool things on the rise.
[0:53:02] RT: Now in terms of your social media, can you maybe share a few of those right now?
[0:53:06] TG: Yeah, Twitter, it’s Tonygentilcore1, there’s another. So there’s another Tony Gentilcore that took the Tonygentilcore, that jerk.
[0:53:14] RT: Isn’t he like a cousin or something maybe?
[0:53:16] TG: No, some computer…
[0:53:16] RT: He’s not part of the familia?
[0:53:18] TG: He might be, he’s got to be to some degree but Tonygentilcore1 is going to be my twitter and Facebook, it’s Tonygentilcore, I have a regular page and I also have a fitness/fan page, that can easily be found. I’m also in Instagram too. Part of the big three. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram but all three of those, you can find on my website, there’s a link to all three.
[0:53:42] RT: Insta is also @Tonygentilcore?
[0:53:43] TG: Yes.
[0:53:44] RT: Tonygentilcore, real simple. Then for Twitter, the numeral one at the end right?
[0:53:51] TG: Numeral one, yup.
[0:53:52] RT: Okay, alright, well that’s easy, sounds good. Parting advice, what do you got for us?
[0:53:55] TG: I would say, anyone listening just strive to get better, again, I feel like get stronger, strength is the key to pretty much everything. Focus on strength and good things are going to happen.
[0:54:08] RT: You can never be too strong, I think Mark Bell always says that, right? No he says strength is never a weakness.
[0:54:13] TG: Never a weakness. But being weak is.
[0:54:15] RT: There you go. Man, Tony, love it. Okay guys, superstrengthshow.com, you put into the search bar. Tony Gentilcore one more time. Show notes page will come up, you could listen to it there, download it, access various podcasting platforms we’re on, recommend you sign up so you get the shows come directly to you. You can share it to various social media platforms, you know all those share buttons and we really love it when you guys do that, it means a lot to us. There’s also a button there, leave a review.
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[0:55:22] TG: Super Sultry.
[0:55:24] RT: Anyway. Yeah, if you guys can do that, we really appreciate it. You can also leave reviews on Stitcher and some of the other platforms have those options, they come and they go. Again, I can’t thank you guys enough. There’s been quite a few that have been left and everybody who has done that, thank you guys, it means a lot to us. On the show notes page, we’re going to have some extra info, we’ll have links to all the goodies that Tony has mentioned, we’ll have links through social media platforms, to his website, all that good stuff will be there.
There’s a bonus Q&A, we’ll try to throw on some videos as well, we always try to add some extra goodies to make it worthwhile for you guys to go check out the show notes page. Again, superstrengthshow.com, you just put in Tony Gentilcore. While you’re there, we highly recommend you sign up with the free newsletter, you get the tips and you also get the newsletter, I’m sorry, the free report which shows you how to maximize your strength while minimizing your risk for injuries.
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Maximize strength and minimize injury, always the important thing. Also guys, feedback, good, bad or fugly, let us know. Feedback@superstrengthshow.com, send it all over, don’t hold anything back, good, bad, fugly like I said man, I’m being dead serious, we like reading it all, we take it all into consideration because we’re here to help you guys achieve what it is that you want and we do that by taking into consideration your feedback and by letting us know, you want more of this or less of that, it really helps us to kind of keep things moving along here.
The other thing I’d like to mention is, firstname.lastname@example.org, send over your training photos, if you got some videos, maybe you got some photos of your home gym setup or something like that, we’d love sharing that as well with our various social media platforms and on the website. One last time Tony, thank you so much man, I really appreciate this.
[0:57:11] TG: Okay, great Ray, I appreciate it, thank you.
[0:57:13] RT: Yeah, I’m going to bring you back on to give another injection of that enthusiasm and that knowledge. All right guys, as we always say, put these stuff to use, Tony’s in the Boston area, you take clients right?
[0:57:23] TG: Of course yes.
[0:57:25] RT: tonygentilcore.com, that’s where they could find you?
[0:57:26] TG: Yup, there’s a contact page on there. It’s pretty easy to find.
[0:57:30] RT: Yeah, you’re right in the city correct?
[0:57:32] TG: Brooklyn which is yeah, right in the city, I’m easy to get to.
[0:57:37] RT: There you go. I’m easy to find baby.
[0:57:40] TG: Exactly.
[0:57:42] RT: Yeah, a little bit of that New York attitude maybe, I don’t know. Upstate New York attitude. Anyway, guys, seriously though, you hear me say this all the time, he only “real shortcut” is just doing it right the first time and not screwing around and wasting time and the way you do that is to get affiliated with some superstars, some people who could really help you and as Tony said, find someone that could help you with nutrition, find someone who can help you with your training, find somebody who could help you with your recovery and whatnot.
Yes, I know some people are thinking, “Man, this costs money though right? Where am I going to get all these money for this stuff? Well, Tony said, if you can go just view somebody and I bet you, a lot of guys, I don’t know if Tony wants to have a thousand people lined up to watch him train people but I don’t know Tony, if somebody came by, wanted to ask you a few questions, I highly doubt you’d turn them away right?
[0:58:25] TG: No, yeah, that’s already started. When I was in Cresseu Sports Performance, we’d have at least five to 10 people a week in there.
[0:58:35] RT: Yeah, see?
[0:58:36] TG: Usually as long as I say, respect our time and looks like that we’re working then it’s all good.
[0:58:43] RT: Exactly, yeah. As long as you’re respectful, a lot of these guys that we bring on the show, a lot of the guys and gals, they want to help people okay? If you can’t have somebody train you in person, okay, get the book, get the eBook right?
[0:58:55] TG: Yeah.
[0:58:57] RT: Do something right? There’s so much information out there which is a double edged sword but that’s the purpose of the show, to help you cut through all the BS and introduce you to people who are really making things happen, whether they’re coaches, competitors, athletes or just average everyday people who really worked hard to achieve their goals and they’ve kind of laid the path for you, they’ve blazed the trail to help you along as well.
The reality is, once you start doing things correctly, you body will it’s amazing how quickly you can make gains because as long as you do things right, your body will respond a certain way. It’s a formula, it’s kind of like look man, they discovered flight and then within 50 years they were on the moon? It’s just ridiculous, 60 years, something like that? It’s because they learned the proper principles and the same thing with the body and it doesn’t take 50 years right?
[0:59:42] TG: Let’s hope not.
[0:59:42] RT: No, not at all man, three months you can make amazing gains and if you stick with it, you can make mind boggling gains once you stick with it even beyond that and make it a part of your lifestyle. Reach out guys, make sure you do that okay? We’ll end it off by saying, put this stuff to use, and until next time, train smart, train hard and we’ll talk to you then.
More Specifically in this Episode You’ll Learn About
- Tony explains how Cressey Sports Performance started
- Immerse yourself in other people’s viewpoints
- You should always be evolving
- Learn from others first
- Success doesn’t equate to money
- Strive to become better
- The hardest person to train is yourself
- Even coaches need coaches
- Lumbar Extension
- Anatomical Neutral
- Sometimes you’re your own worst enemy
- Quality of Movement & Progressive Overload
- How to coach your clients
- The percentage based approach
- Finding your purpose for training
- For 90% of people, a full body approach program is the way to go
- Focus on strength and good things are going to happen
About Tony Gentilcore
Tony is a strength and conditioning coach based out of Boston and is one of the co-founders of Cressey Sports Performance where he served as one of the head coaches from 2007 until fall of 2015.
He’s now working out of a small studio in Boston where he works with a wide variety of people and athletes.
Tony’s work has been featured in may reputable fitness and health publications including: T-Nation.com, Men’s Health, Women’s Health, Men’s Fitness, Bodybuilding.com, and STACK.
You can connect with him by visiting his website at TonyGentilcore.com
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