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171 Josh Trent: On A Mission To Empower Greater Wellness In Over 1,000,000 Lives Through Technology

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In this episode of the Super Strength Show, Josh Trent takes us on his journey to becoming a Wellness Consultant, Corrective Exercise Specialist, Host of Wellness Force Radio and Founder of Wellness Force.com. During this interview, Josh shares his mission to empower greater wellness in over 1,000,000 lives through technology.

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[INTRODUCTION]

 

[0:00:19] RT: What’s up Strength Maniacs? And thanks for tuning in. I’m pleased to welcome today’s guest, Josh Trent. Josh is the founder of wellnessforce.com and host of the number one iTunes rated new and note worthy podcast, Wellness Force Radio. Awarded top 50 digital health influencers in 2015 by Analytica, Josh is a wellness consultant, corrective exercise specialist and quantified self-enthusiast and expert in fitness technology.

 

Along his personal and professional health journey since 2004, Josh has trained with numerous world class fitness professionals including Juan Carlos Santana, Paul Chek, Todd Durkin and Mike Boyle. With national accreditation from multiple fitness organizations and with over 10 years of high level experience in the health and fitness industry, Josh provides content for multiple fitness and digital health publications such as Wellness Effects, The National Academy of Sports Medicine, Digital Health and The Fitness Industry Technology Council.

 

The guy is a busy man. Josh continues his own personal and professional transformation through interviewing passionate and inspiring thought leaders on his iTunes podcast and online as a digital health coach with a clear mission to empower greater wellness and over — get this guys — one million lives through technology. You can connect with him by visiting wellnessforce.com.

 

[INTERVIEW]

 

Josh welcome to the show. It’s great to have you on here. We talked about having those BHAG’s, those big hair audacious goals and a million plus people, I love it man.

 

[0:01:53] JT: Thank you Ray that was cool hearing. I haven’t heard that bio a few weeks and I just flashed back to all the things that I’ve been up to man. It’s just nice to pause and realize, “Oh yeah, we’re doing some great things.” [0:02:02] RT: Man, all kinds of good things. It’s good man, you’ve got to have that written down somewhere, where you could walk by with a couple of blank spaces to remind you to keep adding to it, right?

 

[0:02:08] JT: Put it on my bathroom window.

 

[0:02:10] RT: There you go. There’s a good spot that way the other neighbors aren’t looking in on you. Okay, so I’m wondering, how about you share more info. There’s a lot there, what got you on this journey. If you could give us a couple quick minutes before we get into the main questions of the show.

 

[0:02:23] JT: Yeah, I found Digital Health after being in gyms for 10 years. I mean I’ve always been curious about my health and wellness. I was 280 pounds at one point. When I was a kid flashing way back, I never got the psychological and nutritional tools that I needed. I think a lot of people can resonate with this.

 

When you’re a kid, you’re just modelling a parents behavior and what happened was, with the different mindsets that I had and the poor habits for health and nutrition, even when I was an athlete, I was still eating pretty poor foods and to no surprise, I’m 22 years old and I’m almost 280 pounds.

 

So I got so frustrated with how I felt in my body that I just left. I left my whole life, moved to Hawaii, started training in a gym out there and a fitness manager approached me, this was 2002 and he said, “Hey, have you ever thought about being a trainer?” And my answer was, “What’s a trainer?” And I looked into the whole field of training.

 

I realized it was already a path I was on myself, trying to change my body and trying to get my health and wellness improved and so that was it. For the next nine, 10 years, I was training in gyms and running teams and working in different facilities but I started to get really burned out at about the 8th or 9th year of my training career.

 

I was not getting the results for my clients that they deserved, and I had every certification that you could imagine from functional diagnostic nutrition, movement certifications, corrective exercise, personal trainer certifications but something was still missing and I realized it was because I didn’t know what my clients were doing outside the gym.

 

So they’d see me for two or three hours a week but it was frustrating. So in 2013, at the end 2013, I saw a film by two Olympic athletes and it was called Personal Goal. It was a story of how they used digital health and quantified self with these two Olympic athletes of a team to essentially have the women’s cycling team in 2012 win the silver medal in the Olympic Games. I had this flash moment.

 

I remember I was driving home and I have this lightning bolt go through my health and I thought, “If Digital Health and Wellness Tech could help Olympic athletes win a medal, how could that help clients and average people?” And so that’s when I dove into almost two years and about 18 months of research on what digital health apps, wellness technology advices can actually move the needle for people’s strength gains, for people’s weight loss. That’s really what I’ve created with Wellness Force. So it’s not been a linear path Ray, that’s for sure man.

 

[0:04:44] RT: No but it’s always that way, isn’t it?

 

[0:04:46] JT: Absolutely.

 

[0:04:47] RT: We many times assume it’s a straight line but it’s not. It’s a zigzag — zigzag, zigzag.

 

[0:04:51] JT: Yeah and people feel like you get this certification, you work in this club and maybe you have a team of trainers that you work with, and it doesn’t always work like that and I feel like hitting rock bottom, having moments in our lives that teach us a lesson about where we thought we were going, it opens up the space for a new journey and that’s really what I’ve been on for the past couple of years.

 

[0:05:11] RT: I would agree with you and not only that, I think that again, that zigzag pattern what it does is it allows you to have a lot of life experience which you could ultimately apply to whatever it is that you finally realize it is. I guess it’s your calling to a degree right?

 

[0:05:23] JT: Everything is a lesson. Everything is a journey. Wherever we are, it’s exactly perfect. I know it’s hard to feel that way when you’re in a position of pain or a loss or relationship ends or whatever it is but gosh, there’s a lesson in every single moment.

 

[0:05:37] RT: Yeah and like you said, it’s easy to say and almost to the point of sounding corny but it’s true. I think it was Hill, Napoleon Hill who said, “Every adversity has an equal and greater seed of opportunity in it,” or something of that nature and there’s a lot of truth to that.

 

[0:05:53] JT: Yes, you know as a coach or trainer or an athlete, how are you supposed to know what it feels like to be successful unless you felt complete and utter defeat?

 

[0:06:02] RT: Yeah, again, we’re quoting back and forth but I think Muhammad Ali said the same thing, “A champion is not a champion” and I am paraphrasing like crazy right now but “Until you’ve got that taste of defeat,” You’ve got to taste that. It just gives you this fire to realize I do not want to go back to that. So great if you could learn from others and there are short comings and maybe failures.

 

I mean we should ideally, we don’t need to necessarily make every mistake in the world by any means but getting burned a couple of times maybe even just once is enough to, especially if it’s something that we can remember. To give you that fire in the belly to say, “You know what? No, no, no I’ve got to do something else in my life. I am much more than this.”

 

[0:06:42] JT: Yeah and those moments come when we’re least expecting it usually and that’s what happened to me.

 

[0:06:46] RT: Yeah and at least want it.

 

[0:06:49] JT: Yeah. There’s no room for this happening, well it’s happening.

 

[0:06:51] RT: Yeah, exactly. Okay Josh, let’s jump into this and can you share what are your favorite success quotes, maybe a saying, a motto and an example of how you’ve applied it to meaning to your training and life?

 

[0:07:02] JT: I saw this question and I thought I wanted to give you two. The first one that I always say to myself when I’m nervous or when there’s a question of self-worth or whatever it is coming up, I always say, “You know it’s not about me, it’s about the mission.” So the feelings that I am feeling, they’re really just ego driven like, “Oh, I won’t make it,” or, “What happens if something doesn’t work?” That’s not what’s important.

 

So that’s a mantra or a motto that I use but honestly, my favorite quote ever is by Ralph Waldo Emerson and it’s, “Do the thing and you will have the power.” And how I’ve applied this in my life is, at the edge of the cliff of progress no matter what I’m doing whether it’s a weight training goal, a business goal, a life goal, there is completely that thought process that happens in my mind where I say, “Well what if it doesn’t work out?”

 

“Do I have enough power to make this happen? Am I strong enough to lift this weight? Can I make this PR? Can I make this happen?” And it’s just by doing the thing — do the thing and you will have the power. It’s like do the thing enough and eventually, you will be strong enough. You will be powerful enough. You will be cognitive enough to make whatever happens in your life completely your creation.

 

[0:08:06] RT: Yeah because you’re not going to get to that point by sitting on the sidelines. It’s not going to happen.

 

[0:08:11] JT: Absolutely not. I mean the game happens 24/7 so doing the thing and you will have the power, I think how that shown up for me is just the doubt is always going to be there. The fear is always going to be there in some certain situations and just by the repetition of doing, that’s actually what gives you the power.

 

There’s no more certifications that people need to get. Typically, there’s no more information that people need to get. There just have to be a course of imperfect action that people need to take and that’s what’s going to give them the power.

 

[0:08:39] RT: Just do it, right? I think Nike figured that out a while ago.

 

[0:08:43] JT: Whoever figured that out, I wonder if they’re sitting there and tapping on their shoe and they’re like, “You know what? I’m just going to do it” and I think that was some guy’s garage where he started Nike.

 

[0:08:52] RT: Yeah, you know what? That would be interesting to find out exactly where did that came from.

 

[0:08:56] JT: Figure that out man, let’s figure out how the thing started.

 

[0:08:59] RT: I guarantee you, you could figure that out in three seconds with a Google search and Wikipedia. It’s probably out there.

 

[0:09:04] JT: No doubt.

 

[0:09:04] RT: But anyway. Okay so next one, sharing a story of a time when you’re training in life when you had a major challenge. If you could take us back to that time, paint the picture for us and explain to us not only the story but the lessons that you learned from it.

 

[0:09:18] JT: So 2010, I was training in a CrossFit Box here in San Diego and I was learning kipping pull ups. Something that I always had with my physiology is that I have a little bit of a sway back and that’s led to some postural issues in my right shoulder. I damaged my shoulder earlier in life when I was an athlete in high school.

 

When I was doing the kipping pull ups in 2010, I was going home one night and my elbow started to hurt so bad and it hurt for a while. Then I went to the doctor and the therapist and I realized that I had epicondylitis and inflammation at the tendon where attached and I did all these different work and I stopped doing pull ups.

 

I stopped doing any kind of pulling exercise really but it was super painful for me to just grab anything and even when I was using my forearm extensors, it was still painful. So I did all the different modalities of healing that you could imagine. I went to an acupuncture guy, acupressure guy, I went to a therapist, nothing was really working.

 

It was depressing because part of how I make my living is by being able to demonstrate movements and being able to be healthy and fit myself. So I started to spiral into, “What’s wrong? Why can’t I figure this out?” I was doing mobility work and I found a guy who was an HLC practitioner, holistic lifestyle coach and that’s through the C.H.E.K Institute. He started doing a little bit different assessments.

 

The Chek model, for people that might not know, looks at the body from a high view, from a holistic view. There’s FMS and there’s different certifications out there for movement but I needed something a little bit more astringent and that’s what this practitioner offered me.  We actually found that it wasn’t my elbow and it wasn’t anything going on with my shoulder. It was actually my scalenes and my traps. We did a lot of mobility on my scalenes and my traps, some form extensor work.

 

[0:11:03] RT: Hold on, what are scalenes and maybe even if you reverse it a little bit further than that, sway back, I should have probably asked you that when you first mentioned it.

 

[0:11:12] JT: Sure, I just have a little bit more of an arch in my back where the thoracic spine — the thoracic spine is obviously right in the center of your back. I have a large chest cavity. My grandpa was Italian so he blessed me with a really big chest cavity, thanks mom, thanks grandpa and the lack of mobility that I had from an early age compounded that sway in my back.

 

A sway back is when you have a larger hump, you could almost look at it like being somebody who has an upper cross syndrome where they have forward shoulders and there’s a rounding of the shoulder. So by birth, I kind of had that naturally and so the scalenes are the musculature that are essentially right below the chin, right above the clavicle.

 

So the scalenes are what flexes the neck. They help to flex the neck or drop your chin and I realized that it was something that was posturally that was already defeating me for a lot of years. But it was really a hard time because talk about a major challenge like how am I going to demonstrate movements for clients if I can’t hold onto a barbell?

 

I’ve seen other trainers that have had the same thing where there’s inflammation at that elbow joint and things like that. So it took a year. It took a year Ray for me to actually do the work every day, rolling out the scalenes, foam rolling everything that I had to through my chest, making sure that my pec minor, my pec major was rolled out. Just really diving into what it is to have soft tissue work and mobility a part of my life. I thought I was kind of too good for it before but I learned my lesson, that’s for sure.

 

[0:12:45] RT: How do you roll out your scalenes and your neck because we’re talking about the front of the neck, right? That is a sensitive area.

 

[0:12:51] JT: Yeah, I wouldn’t roll in my neck. I really just have a soft tissue work like meeting with a therapist. I also had some different exercises that I would do, I would like hold the bar with my right hand and then flex my neck towards the left and then just work on my own scalenes for five to 10 minutes.

 

[0:13:07] RT: Gotcha, kind of like almost stretching and kind of have to touch that.

 

[0:13:10] JT: Yeah, somebody saw me in the gym rolling on my neck, they’d be like, “What are you doing man?”

 

[0:13:15] RT: Yeah, okay so I think you mentioned something that is really important, a year. A year of day in and day out doing the stuff and that’s sometimes what it takes, yeah.

 

[0:13:24] JT: One year — oh and by the way, this whole time, I’m not doing anymore kipping pull ups, I’m not doing any heavy dead lifting. I’m essentially not holding anything heavy because my forearm extensors and flexors are just not working properly. So it was a year of lighter weight.

 

I started exploring more functional movement. I actually took a MovNat course that year, so I just changed my training because I knew that what I was doing isn’t working anymore and I think honestly, if I look back it was a lot of ego. Like, “Oh, I don’t need to do the tissue work like other people,” but we all get to do that.

 

[0:13:57] RT: Yeah and look, I think a lot of us may look at that and say, “A year, and that’s crazy. That’s 365 days, 52 weeks, you know what? I don’t need to do that.” But the reality is one out of two things are likely to happen if not both, your performance is going to drop and you’re likely to probably get injured even worse to the point where you can’t come back from that injury.

 

If you don’t get injured, that’s great. Hopefully, that wouldn’t happen but just to end up losing a percentage of your capabilities or your abilities to not perform in a 100% reel, I can only perform at I don’t know, 80, 90, 75 because I think there are people out there who would settle for that as opposed to, “Okay, it’s a year. I’m just going to make this a part of my daily routine, whatever it may be, and just stick with it man.”

 

[0:14:44] JT: Yeah and we talked about this a little bit before the show Ray, where there’s this mindset of, “Well, if I just get this one program or if I just have this one periodization table or protocol or whatever it is” then I just do it and then in a month, I should look a lot better right?” or “I should be able to perform better,” but it doesn’t work like that.

 

Nature and our physiology in our bodies, that takes weeks and months and sometimes years before you see tangible changes and a lot of it has to do with an epigenetic component, what we bring to the world, our environment, some of it is just our genetics. We inherit it from our parents but the day by day, brick by brick work that we do as coaches or trainers or athletes, it’s something that takes ultimate commitment.

 

If we want to change, we have to be humble enough to learn the new tools and to let go of old mindsets and old things that we identify with, people that might only lift heavy weights and not do any mobility or people like myself, who have been training for a while and didn’t think that tissue work was a big deal and then we get kicked by the universe and we realize, “Oh my god, this is a big deal.”

 

[0:15:45] RT: Yeah, exactly and ideally, if you are in a good gym, if you have a good trainer that really understands a holistic approach to your training it does not allow you to neglect any one area. You can avoid this. But if not, then you’ve got to be proactive with this stuff because if you’re playing hard at some point, that can come back and bite you in the butt if you are not doing things intelligently. So all the more reason to really make an effort to learn and check out different things and not brush stuff off, for example like you did with the mobility work.

 

[0:16:15] JT: Yeah, absolutely.

 

[0:16:17] RT: I mean things get brushed off just simply because, “Oh, I think I’m above that.” Or maybe just, “Oh well, I see it but I don’t think that’s for me. That’s not the thing that I do, that’s not a part of what I do.” It might be even an innocent reason as to why you brushed it off but yeah, I mean definitely be having some curiosity and understanding that there are more aspects to training than just simply whatever it is that your specific endeavor focuses on whether that’s endurance or max strength.

 

There’s other components that you need to combine. For the longest time I’ve said, “A complete training program involves some type of resistance training, some types of cardio and some type of stretching,” right? I mean that was the old act and they used to say that for years and years and years and the reality is, they’re not that far off. You really should be doing some combination of that stuff and for me, when you say stretching, to me that counts as mobility stretching, possibly some body work as well.

 

[0:17:12] JT: Yeah, I even throw in some active stretching there, some active flexibility drills and whatnot because I mean in my opinion, I don’t really feel like the static stretching move the needle from my recovery on that issue that I had with the epicondylitis. I think it was more the soft tissue work. Actually getting the tennis balls out, getting the racket balls out.

 

Going to the soft tissue worker, doing the active flexibility exercises is what really made the difference for me. I think static stretching is great post workout but that’s just my opinion. That is what I believe in.

 

[0:17:44] RT: Yeah, I know some guys don’t even believe in static stretching. When you say active, what do you mean by active stretching? And then we’ll hop into the next question.

 

[0:17:52] JT: Yeah, if you look at some of the work from NASM, we look at the different planes of motion, let’s take a lunge for example. Someone is doing a sagittal lunge. They’re taking the body in a straight forward range and motion. They’re not going to hit all the heads of the top of their biceps femoris.

 

They’re not going to get anything involving the literary flexed heads so if they go transverse and you’re twisting with a medicine ball, it is not the intensity that you work out with if you are doing a strength training set or if you’re doing a functional movement set. It’s just active stretching is where you’re taking the body past its normal range of motion. You don’t even need a load. You just need to move it through all the different planes.

 

So that’s what I would do. I would do a launch matrix, I would do a matrix for my shoulder that I learned from Gary Grey, taking the shoulder through all those three plains, transfer, sagittal, lateral and just making sure that I was addressing all the three movement hinges on my joints for my shoulder and I try to do that before I do anything really. I’m not a big fan of static stretching, yeah.

 

[0:18:48] RT: Yeah otherwise things are to seize up because you’re just not using that range of motion.

 

[0:18:52] JT: Exactly. If you take your body through a range of motion that it normally doesn’t go in and there’s a load, I mean now you’re looking at injury. I think that you should be able to and in my opinion, you should be able to do a hundred body weight squats, 30 to 40 pushups, 10 to 15 dead hang pull ups before you really start adding the load anyways. If during any of those body weight movements you have pain or if you have range in motion issues, those get to be addressed through the active flexibility exercises.

 

[0:19:21] RT: Yeah, I agree with you on that. There are some very fundamental baselines that a lot of us overlook when we get into training and before we know it, we’re starting to add. One of our guest, I wish I could remember who it was so I can attribute this quote to him. What you don’t want to do is add resistance to dysfunction. That’s looking for trouble.

 

So as you were saying, if you can’t achieve those reps with just your body weight and especially with good form and proper range of motion, now you’re starting to add resistance to this, well now you’re looking for trouble because you are not already lined up correctly and things are already not working properly. Now you’re just accelerating the rate at which you may potentially get injured.

 

[0:20:04] JT: And I think this is where the ego steps in. The same reason why I didn’t think I needed soft tissue work or I didn’t need mobility work might be the same reason that somebody might come into the gym and just go right to the bench with no warm up. There is a little bit of ego involved sometimes on the fitness floor. And if we can just take a step back from the ego and start looking more of the functional side of why are we moving and what this exercise is for, I think there’s going to be less injuries and it’s just a better experience overall.

 

[0:20:30] RT: Yup, yeah, I would agree. Either ego or you just don’t know any better.

 

[0:20:34] JT: Or you don’t know, yeah.

 

[0:20:36] RT: Yeah again, that’s why you’ve got to check the ego at the door, have a good coach to keep an eye on you and have that curiosity to explore and I think you’ve just have to be cognizant of who you are learning from ultimately and why that person is teaching you the way or the information that they’re teaching you. Where is it coming from?

 

So anyway, next question here. Share a story of a time where you’re training and you had a breakthrough moment. If you could take us back, and like the last one, share the steps that you took and paint the picture for us there and let us know exactly what happened and what was that light bulb moment that you were able to turn that success for you?

 

[0:21:12] JT: Yes, this moment for me, I was actually training in Vegas. My first year and a half of being a personal trainer I lived in Las Vegas and this is right around the time that functional movement was hot. You would go to perform better, you go to all these different seminars and everybody had the mini-bands out and all the different tools and the medicine balls.

 

I got swept up in that and I thought, “Oh my God, most of my clients or body composition change or weight loss clients, so I’m going to start taking people through dynamic range of motion” and forget about close chain movements. I’m going to start taking people through lunges with twisting and all these different things.”

 

And I just went down this rabbit hole myself where I started doing the functional movements that I was training my clients to do and I lost a lot of lean body mass. I think I lost like 10 pounds of lean body mass because I was doing too much functional movement and not enough of the basics. Not enough of the fundamentals.

 

I think this happens to a lot of fitness professionals because they are so hungry and they care and at the end of the day they care. They’re always searching for the new trends, for the new tools, for the new things that are coming out from the trusted leaders and that’s what I did. So for about — at 26 years old, for about a year I just did functional movement. I had this “aha” moment where I was looking at the mirror one day and I’m like, “Where did my muscle go? Like where is my biceps?”

 

[0:22:31] RT: I don’t know if that’s an “aha” moment, that’s an “oh no” moment but yeah.

 

[0:22:35] JT: Yeah, “aha”, “oh no” whatever you want to say but it wasn’t that my size dropped. I think I started to notice that when I got to do a heavier lift occasionally that I couldn’t lift it and I didn’t like that. So I essentially just went back to the basics, traditional strength movements. I actually got a little bit leaner by doing this three, my favorite three which we’ll talk about later, it’s the deadlift, the back squat and cable rotations. Have your cable rotations. I love those, those are my favorite three.

 

But that’s what I did. That was my “oh no” moment as you had said. My “aha” moment was doing too much functional movement and reverting back to doing six, eight, 10 repetition of traditional strength. Doing the things that I know build not just lean body mass and muscular density but increase my metabolism without me having to work so hard and do so many out of the box movements, right?

 

[0:23:29] RT: Interesting, yeah. I mean it doesn’t take much and we were talking about this too before we started. You get off track, inch by inch, inch by inch, before you know it, you’re miles off course, right?

 

[0:23:38] JT: Yes but you know what? I listen to and I’m sure you do as well Ray, I listen to a few podcast and I think it’s John Lee Dumas, I’m in his podcasting group and he says, “You know if you’re off just one percent on a course and you’re trying to fly to France then you may end up in Africa just by being off one percent.”

 

So you’re right man, it’s like one little thing that we change and we continue to do that one thing that’s not in alignment with where I want to be, well, we learn a lesson from that and that was the lesson that I learned.

 

[0:24:07] RT: Yeah and you don’t notice it, right? You just don’t even notice.

 

[0:24:10] JT: Yeah because it’s so small. It’s such a small change and maybe for someone, it’s just that they stopped doing back squats. There’s a recipe there that you probably not going to see some changes that you want to see if you cut out back squats.

 

[0:24:22] RT: Yeah, depending on what it is that you want ultimately and that’s why having some form of checklist or something like that that you could check in on to make sure that you are doing what you should be doing or again, having some type of a training partner, a coach of some sort, somebody to keep an eye on you, to help keep you track.

 

Because the reality is, if you are able to stay on track, the overwhelming majority of time, your progress, the rate of progress just goes through the roof as opposed to meandering to the left, to the right, zigzag and the closer you can keep it to a straight line, the quicker you’re going to reach your end goal.

 

So that’s another reason to have, again, some people helping you building that team around you. Or bare minimum, just have some form of  even like a pre-flight checklist of some sort, something to keep an eye on stuff. All right, we’re going to go on a break right now Josh, we’ll be right back. Sound good to you?

 

[0:25:17] JT: Awesome.

 

[0:25:18] RT: All right guys, you are listening to the Super Strength Show and we’ve got our special guest today, Josh Trent from wellnessforce.com. We’ll be right back.

 

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[0:26:31] RT: All right guys, we’re back with our guest, Josh Trent, host of Wellness Force Radio on iTunes. I would highly suggest you go check him out. Josh, I’m wondering if you could recommend one training resource for our listeners and it could be anything, a piece of equipment, a course of some sort, you name it. What would you recommend?

 

[0:26:48] JT: We were talking earlier and you had mentioned that it’s really nice to have a checklist or a pre-flight checklist and I feel the same way. That’s why I am so passionate about quantifying our activity, putting some data down with our activities and that’s why I love, the one thing I want to recommend to Super Strength is the Ithlete HRV app.

 

You go there, you put a fingertip sensor on, I’m sure that your audience is no stranger to heart rate variability but what I like about Ithlete is that it’s a quick reading, you place it on your finger, you get your readiness for athleticism in the morning and you know whether to go light or heavy that day and I love it.

 

[0:27:30] RT: Yeah, we’ve had a few guest before who talk about heart rate variability and this has some real science backing it up, right?

 

[0:27:35] JT: Absolutely. The Quantified Self-conference last year in San Francisco, there was a doctor that was there and I forgot his name right now but he actually proved that tracking HRV can not only be a sign for athletic readiness but you can use HRV to track coronary heart disease, you can use HRV to track emotional intelligence.

 

I mean HRV is a mirror and in the quantified self-movement and in the wellness technology and fitness technology movement, there is just mirrors of activity and all these activity and data sets are doing is just being a mirror of mindfulness to people. How are you showing up when you’re training? How are you showing up in your life? How are you showing up with your sleep? How are you showing up with your heart rate?

 

And the more ways that clients and trainers and just people, just human beings can have mirrors of mindfulness in their life, then the better they’re going to be able to show up for life. So that’s why I love using heart rate variability. There’s a bunch of other ones out there and I was thinking, “What’s going to be the best for people to listen to Super Strength?” And I think heart rate variability is going to be probably at the top of the chart.

 

[0:28:39] RT: All right, there you go. You just find that in the iTunes stores, is that the best place to find it?

 

[0:28:43] JT: Yeah, I think it’s a free app and then the device is $60 or $75. Joel Jamieson has one as well. I don’t know if he’s been on the show.

 

[0:28:52] RT: Yeah, actually yeah so okay, that’s easy then. So you just sign up for the app, you buy the sensor for your fingertip and off you go, right?

 

[0:29:00] JT: Off you go man, it’s pretty self-explanatory too.

 

[0:29:03] RT: That sounds good. It’s just crazy that something so basic could be so helpful. So it almost sounds too good to be true but actually it isn’t this time so interesting. Is it complicated to implement that information? In other words, does it really throw a wrench in your training if you have a preset program?

 

Let’s just say Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, you’re doing certain workouts, you get this reading that tells you that you should probably back off today, so what do you do? Do you just simply not go hard on that specific workout and then on the following week, you hit it hard or how does that work?

 

[0:29:34] JT: Yeah, I think you bring up a good point. If you have a periodization table or a program that you’re working on whether it’s with your coach — I mean first of all, if you’re with a coach and they are using HRV with you, they should be able to adjust the template or the program that you’re using but if you’re training by yourself and you just want to stay accountable to your program, by all means, I would say just go train, just don’t go as heavy on that specific day.

 

Because there is something to be said about HRV and really after 30 days, then you can start taking HRV as thrift but it’s not the gospel, it’s not something that if you’re feeling great and your HRV is a little bit lower, maybe your HRV is in the low 70’s and mid 70’s and not in the 80’s and you still want to go for it, go for it. But just be mindful of your body, listen to how your body is feeling.

 

And this touches on something that isn’t another question where it’s like, yes we have this mindset as people that want to grow and have super strength that our mind is stronger than our body sometimes but there is a double edged sword to that because sometimes, there’s days that you go into the gym and you could actually be using your mind to push through too hard of an exercise or to make yourself not get the gains that you should be getting because you’re exhausted.

 

If you’re exhausted, your HRV is low, your sleep is bad, all these different things are going on that are attacking your progress and you go in there and you still try to knock it out of the park with your workout. Well, that’s not smart training and I think really what HRV does is, it’s just a tool for us to be a little bit smarter with our training. Long winded answer Ray but the short answer is, if your HRV is low and you still have a heavy training day, go to your training just back off and listen to your body.

 

[0:31:17] RT: Yeah and as you said, it’s not the gospel but it’s a data point, one that you should definitely pay attention to.

 

[0:31:22] JT: Sure man and it makes us more mindful, right? We have HRV, we have heart rate, we have different training load, we look at our tables and we can see like, “Okay, how are we really showing up on our workouts? How is our weight sets been? How is our PR’s been?” then let’s start incorporating HRV as well because like I said, the mind can sometimes stop the progress of the body.

 

[0:31:41] RT: Okay, do you got any recommendations for sources of information to learn more about HRV and how to implement that?

 

[0:31:47] JT: I love — Joel Jamieson, he actually just did a webinar about this, 8weeksout.com I think is his site. There’s lots of information about HRV there for the audience.

 

[0:31:56] RT: Okay, there you go. Easy, we’ll have that on the show notes page. Next question, one we like to have some fun with man, to goof around and mess around and what not and you were saying that you were doing some kipping pull ups, all right and also I should preface this by saying, if you could zero in on a couple of points specific so we could really take this stuff and put it to use right after hearing it.

 

Okay, going to get a little silly here as I normally do, you were doing the kipping pull ups and you are saying that those cost some pain, right and that hurt you and what not and you’re doing some pull ups now, your health and you’re back into the gym and then all of a sudden, you catch a whiff of something and it’s like, “What is going on here?”

 

It is causing some real pain and you kind of turn around and you see walking into the gym and you’re kind of like, “Is that really Ray? What is that smell man? I don’t know what the heck that smell is” and I look over and I go, “Hey buddy, what’s going on?” Give you a big hug and you’re just like, “Oh my God, this is terrible.”

 

I look at you and I’m like, “It’s bad isn’t it?” He said, “Dude, I mean it was more painful and I messed up my elbow” or whatever it was or “Shoulder when I was doing those kippings. What the heck is this smell man?” And I hand you the keys and I’m like, “Relax man, the DeLorean is outside, full tank of hot garbage.”

 

Probably want to bring some extra deodorant with you depending on where you’re going and you don’t smell the greatest but hit 88 miles an hour, we all know what ends up happening right? So this is me getting a little goofy with this question but anyway, if you go back in time knowing all that you know now, what would you do and how do you set up your training to get the best results in the shortest period of time and set you up for long term success?

 

[0:33:21] JT: Man, I was like laughing as you explained that, I’m thinking about like the smelly garbage.

 

[0:33:25] RT: Yeah, I don’t even know where that was going. I just kind of pulling that out of anywhere.

 

[0:33:28] JT: I like it man. Well to be honest, the way that you asked that question is going to be the same way that you answered the question and I was thinking about this and really, if I could jump in that silver car and then catch the wire and have it light on fire and then I show up 30, 40 years in the past, I would explore reckless abandon to staying completely hungry about what’s out there in the industry.

 

But I would also in tandem stay grounded and focused on the fundamentals and the basic lifts, deadlifts, squats, pull ups, pushups and cable rotations. I’m going to break down each one of those because I know that these are lifts that no one is a stranger to but I want to talk about why, in my opinion, these four in particular are really what I think I would just focus on if I had to go back in time.

 

Deadlifting for me is something that works my entire body but it also makes it so that I feel energetic and it makes it so that chemically, biochemically, hormonally, I think it’s the best lift for me. Now everyone’s got their own lift but the deadlift for me is the one that I feel hormonally, my free testosterone or my HGH, when I do deadlifts on a regular basis, I just feel stronger. I just feel better.

 

Squatting; secondly, when I do squats, it’s difficult for me because I have really tight calves and if I were to go back so I can give some action to people that may just be in the first couple of years of their training, before you do your squats and if I can go back, I would make myself absolutely force myself to foam roll and mobilize my soleus and my gastrac nemius.

 

So the soleus, the space right below your calf and your calf and your gastrac nemius, your calf because if those two musculatures are shortened and tight, you will not have ankle mobility and you will not be able to go as deep on your squat. It won’t just happen. This is why you see people put place under their heels and what not. So I would definitely explore what that was for me.

 

Second is just dead hang pull ups. Dead hang pull ups are something that have always been a challenge for me because of what I talked about earlier on the show with my sway back. Well because of that, I have a tendency to round my shoulders forward. So pull ups for me are difficult because I have to force myself to extend my chest and to retract my shoulders as I do the pull up.

 

And so going back, if I could look back in time, I would tell that 26 year old trainer, “Focus on dead hang pull ups. Dead hang pull ups with your shoulders retracted and your spine neutral or as neutral as I could have been at that time,” the most beneficial thing. This is something that I have been incorporating in the past couple of years, it’s been great.

 

The next one is pushups. Pushups because man, is there really any exercise that’s more challenging than loaded or explosive pushups? I can’t think of something from a metabolic perspective that really challenges your triceps, your front delts, your chest than the pushup and I think doing pushups with elbows in is going to get a lot more chest recruitment. It’s going to get a lot more power out of my chest, I love that one. And then the last one Ray is cable rotations. Cable rotations with the bilateral stance, not a split stance, no crazy footwork, just a nice bilateral rotation, think of closing a heavy door. Think of how many times in our lives women or men that we have to push something aside or move something over to the left or right.

 

Cable rotations are a building block and I think if you could do cable rotations without your hip swing, with your hips locked in place, you’re going to use your abdominis to just be a bracing musculature and it’s going to make you the six pack if your nutrition is on point. It’s going to make you have that pelvic floor strength. I think it’s the mist beneficial exercise.

 

I think it’s better than side-iso abs, I think it’s better than a plank, so those are really what I would do. If I could go back in time and give myself a little cheat sheet and say, “Hey, focus on deadlifts, squats, pull ups, pushups and cable rotations,” and I think it’s not really I’m going to change that from my past, no because my past taught me how important those things are now so I would set things up a little bit differently.

 

[0:37:35] RT: Yeah, I’ve got to tell you, I don’t think anybody yet has recommended those cable rotations and the way you describe them, that is definitely I would say one of the best ways to train the core. A lot of people don’t realize the core’s job is to brace body. Brace your core, your spine so you are not twisting around like a limp noodle when you’re trying to move things. The main function is not to sit ups, not to do crunches.

 

They’re fine, those will work your abdominal muscles and what not but that bracing as you describe it, yeah, that is actually pretty darn interesting. So basically, what you’re saying is get a band, maybe a functional trainer cable cross machine and you’re saying do that kind of twisting movement. Maybe even a Russian twist with a barbell with one end in the corner and you hold the other end up in your arms. You kind of do twisting maybe something of that nature?

 

[0:38:25] JT: Yeah, that can be one. I’m preferential to cable rotations because I can watch my form in the mirror, I can make sure my shoulders are retracted, I can make sure I have a neutral spine, I can keep my hips locked because let’s talk about this one piece. If your hips are moving, then you’re not going to get as much isolated core strength.

 

If you’re moving your hips, you’re going to get dynamic total body strength which is great, I mean there’s nothing wrong with that but what we really are looking at building brute force strength in the core, it’s going to be a hard brace. You’ve got to brace your body by locking your hips. If your hips are locked and you’re rotating the cable outside the hips, left to right, right to left, I think that’s where I’ve seen most strength increase.

 

[0:39:06] RT: Interesting, all right maybe we could get you to provide us with a link to maybe an article with images or maybe even a video showing how to do that correctly. We would really appreciate that.

 

[0:39:15] JT: Sure.

 

[0:39:15] RT: Yeah, we’ll have that on the show notes page that will be great. All right, we are pretty much at the end of the show Josh. It went by pretty quick.

 

[0:39:24] JT: That was fast man, well good things happen when you’re talking about things you love, it goes by fast.

 

[0:39:29] RT: I agree 100% man. Love training, love talking about all this stuff. Now before we take off, two things. I’m wondering if you could tell us where can we find out more about you and also, if you could give us some parting advice afterwards?

 

[0:39:41] JT: Sure, you can learn about me at wellnessforce.com. So wellnessforce.com, I have a ton of articles around nutrition, strength, some around body compositions or if there’s anyone listening to the show that is in their 20’s or early 30’s or even older that’s just starting the journey, there’s some great, great pieces of info there.

 

There is a couple of articles on HRV as well, so you could find all of the content at wellnessforce.com/resource and you can just go to Wellness Force, it’s up at the top of the website. The podcast is Wellness Force Radio and if you look at health, fitness and nutrition or self-help, it will typically be there.  

 

You can always type in “wellness” on iTunes and I’m always on the top five or top 10 there and yeah, I’m really excited about what’s coming up for the year. I’m launching a course on the 15th of February. It’s around 12 people and its using technology to empower your wellness and body composition changes in my clients and it’s been something that I have been building for 18 months so I am really excited about that.

 

If anyone is interested in using specific technology for fitness and wellness to get to their goals a little bit faster to have increased accountability, they can learn about that at wellnessforce.com/120. It’s a 120 day program. Now you asked me about final question, like a wrap up here, some piece of little gem like a nice nugget for the audience right?

 

[0:41:01] RT: You got it, parting advice of some sort.

 

[0:41:03] JT: For a lot of men and I’m speaking to the men right now, I know you have men and women listening to the show but I really want this, to drive this point home for men. The same way that we approach our business, our workouts or doers, men are problem solvers, action takers. So we go really hard in the gym, we get fit but our body language is way more important than our mind and I’ll tell you what I mean by this.

 

Let me impact this a little bit. The body language that we have being willing to go a little bit softer on our bodies, have a little more compassion, a little more awareness of actually what’s going on with our physicality is more important than being perceived as a weakling or someone who hasn’t tend to not go balls to the wall every session.

 

So listen to your body, quantify your training, use HRV, pay attention to what you’re doing, use these technological devices to be more mindful, use this devices as little mirrors for how you’re doing and incorporate some meditation into your training because during meditation where you sit and you breathe for 10 or 15 minutes, you’re going to be a lot more in touch with how you’re feeling.

 

If you are in touch with how you’re feeling, then you will have an intuitiveness about when to go hard on the gym and when to relax in the rest of your life.

 

[0:42:18] RT: I’ve got to tell you something. That bit of advice not everybody learns it and many people don’t end up learning until they kind of take things too far and get injured. So I would suggest that a lot of us listen to what Josh has shared with us. You’ve been through a lot Josh. I love having guests on the show who’ve overcome adversity one form or another or achieve certain goals.

 

You said that you’re at a point in your life where you were quite heavier and you had to overcome that and figure that out. And then you unfortunately, you had that injury which yeah, you got an elbow injury. It wasn’t the end of the world but it was a year to rehab that thing and you stuck with it and made it happen and got yourself back better than ever.

 

Having guests like yourself come on the show, share the information that you do, I just can’t stress enough to the audience that this person is coming from a place of experience and wisdom and if anything he says resonates with you even at the slightest level, go back, re-listen to the show, go check him out, check out his own show and really consider putting what he’s saying and implementing it.

 

Putting it to work for you, because there’s no need for us to have to necessarily go through everything that somebody else went through to reap the benefits of whatever lesson they ultimately learned. It’s crazy because there’s no way that any of us could live long enough to learn everything on our own especially.

 

So being able to spend time with somebody like yourself, again, it’s the closest thing to a shortcut as I always say, is to have a mentor or a coach, I sound like a broken record I know, but the reason why I keep reinforcing this and making this point is because I truly believe that the best way to achieve success is to model somebody else whose done it before, proven successful methods and ideally have a guide along the way who’s been there, done that, taken others there, ideally others in your situation can do the same for you.

 

So thank you Josh, I really appreciate you coming on the show.

 

[0:44:10] JT: Thanks Ray, this is a lot of fun man.

 

[0:44:13] RT: Same here. I would love to have you back on again. Great energy. I could tell you, you really love what you’re doing. When it comes to the technology side of things, there are probably thousands and thousands of devices. I went on the other day to look at some heart rate monitors and it’s just incredible the amount of them that are available and all the features.

 

I went looking for a scale that will also do body fat percentage, I ended up realizing there were scales that would tell you what your bone density is, heart rate and I mean the list just went on and on and on just for scales, a bathroom scale. You know what I mean?

 

[0:44:45] JT: It’s overwhelming yeah. It’s overwhelming.

 

[0:44:46] RT: It’s crazy! It’s like, “Which one is worth my money? Which one is a waste of time, you know what I mean? Okay, I got the money to spend on something but is this thing even accurate? I don’t know, I don’t have a lot of money which one should I spend my money on?” So having somebody like yourself who could help people cut through all that noise and determine which item fits their goals the best so they’re not spending their money on BS, that’s really helpful.

 

Because you can spend a long time researching this stuff, and just one item. If you’re looking to buy a couple of different items and different categories I mean, it’s ridiculous. It’s either a roll of the dice or spend some serious time trying to figure it out because that’s one of the wonderful things of capitalism, right? There’s so many options out there but…

 

[0:45:29.1] JT: So many.

 

[0:45:29.7] RT: So many and it’s a blessing and a curse in away. I said that earlier in some ways in terms of the amount of information that’s out there but having somebody like you’d help us cut through all that is great. Definitely a resource I’m going to use, that’s for sure and I suggest every listening does the same guys. wellnessforce.com and Wellness Force Radio on iTunes, go check him out man, the fellow podcaster. I got to give a lot of love there and a lot of respect and guys, the show notes page will be on superstrengthshow.com in the search bar, put in Josh Trent.

 

Show notes page will come up, you will have the show there, you could re-listen to it, you can download it, there’s links to the various podcasting platforms that we are on, I highly recommend you sign up to them so that the shows come directly to you. There is actual social media sharing buttons there, we really appreciate it when you go out of your way to share this with others, it’s a great way for us to grow. So if you can do that whether it’s on Twitter, on your Facebook, you name it, we really appreciate it.

 

Also there is the option to leave a review, there’s a little link there you could press to leave a review, that will take you to iTunes. If you’re on a mobile device or on your desktop, you can do the same thing as well. Stitcher allows you to leave reviews as well, but if you think we deserve it, a five star review, it goes a long way for us to push the show higher up in the rankings which is great, more people get exposed to it but I would say even more important is that it shows potential guest that it’s worthwhile to come on the show because we have an engaged audience and ultimately that benefits all of us.

 

It gives you guys more of the great information that you want to hear, it allows us to have great guests on to produce great content and obviously for the guest that gives them a platform to share their message. Something I want to go back to is, Josh isn’t messing around, he’s saying he wants to help a million plus people. So this guy, he needs to get out there, he needs to spread his message, he needs the help of all of us to help him do that as well and having a good platform to do that is beneficial to him and obviously an engaged audience to help with that as well is very beneficial.

 

So if you believe in what he’s saying, after you check him out a little bit further or just from listening to this alone, spread the news. Let people know who you think would benefit from what Josh is talking about and what he’s all about. Also, when you’re on the show notes page, we’re going to have links to ways you get a hold of Josh, various ways to connect with him whether social media or his websites, his podcast, we will also have links to all the goodies that he mentioned, he mentioned quite a few of them, we’ll have them all on there as well.

 

Feedback, good bad or fugly, guys, send it on over. We love getting any bit of feedback that you like to send us our way, we appreciate it because it gives us the information we need to know, whether it’s guest you want to have us on, questions you want us to ask, things maybe even you want us to change. Good, bad or fugly guys, let us know. Also, photos, before and after, your current gym that you train at, maybe you got a home gym setup, whatever it may be, even links to videos that you’ve posted yourself.

 

Send it over, we love sharing that with our audience as well. You can send that to infor@superstrengthshow.com and when you’re the website, don’t forget to sign up for the newsletter where you get all kinds of great tips and the free report, all right guys? With that being said, thank you one more time Josh, we’d loved having you on, it was great.

 

[0:48:32.5] JT: Thanks Ray, this is a great time man. You know, there’s one thing that came up for me when you were talking about what the audience can do for action and I realize, I’m going to create a guide, just a list of the best technology apps and devices that can help the Super Strength audience grow stronger and get some more lean body mass gains and I’ll make that at wellnessforce.com/superstrength.

 

[0:48:53.2] RT: Nice and easy, wellnessforce.com/superstrength. Just to be clear guys, these are not just things you spend money on. When you can quantify your progress, it gives you a projective data that you can use to plan what am I going to do next, how are things working, assess what it is that you’re doing. I really appreciate that Josh, thanks. I’m actually looking forward to taking a look at that.

 

[0:49:18.8] JT: Yeah, my pleasure. This is a great show and I love what you’re doing so thanks for having me on.

 

[0:49:23.4] RT: Thank you, the feelings are mutual with you and what you’re doing as well. All right guys, that’s it for today, as I always say, put this stuff to use and until next time, train smart, train hard, talk to you then.

 

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More Specifically in this Episode You’ll Learn About

  • Josh explains how he got into digital health.
  • Everything is a lesson. Everything is a journey.
  • How are you supposed to know what success is unless you have experienced complete and utter defeat?
  • Do it enough and eventually you will have the power.
  • Swaybacks and Scalings.
  • Josh’s 1 year journey with recovery tissue work.
  • Active Stretching.
  • How small changes can have a big impact on overall results.
  • Focus on the big basic lifts.
  • Listen to your body, quantify your training, and be mindful.

About Josh Trent

Josh Trent is the founder of WellnessForce.com and host of the #1 iTunes rated New & Noteworthy podcast, Wellness Force Radio.

Awarded “Top 50 Digital Health Influencers 2015” by Onalytica, Josh is a Wellness Consultant, Corrective Exercise Specialist, Quantified Self enthusiast & expert in Fitness Technology.

Along his personal and professional health journey since 2004, Josh has trained with numerous world-class fitness professionals including Juan Carlos Santana, Paul Chek, Todd Durkin & Mike Boyle.

With national accreditation from multiple fitness organizations, and with over 10 years of high-level experience in the health & fitness industry, Josh provides content for multiple fitness & digital health publications such as WellnessFX, The National Academy of Sports Medicine, Digital Health, and the Fitness Industry Technology Council.

Josh continues his own personal and professional transformation through interviewing passionate and inspiring thought leaders on his iTunes podcast, and online as a digital health coach with a clear mission to empower greater wellness in over one million lives through technology.

You can connect with him by visiting www.wellnessforce.com

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Bonus Q&A

Every person that we interview on The Super Strength Show has an opportunity to answer some extra questions that aren’t asked in the podcast. It’s a chance for our listeners to learn a little bit more about our guests and to get even more value from our show. Check out the answers that  Josh Trent provided below!

Can you share one of your habits that contribute to your success in the gym?  2 days on one day off for strength

What are your favourite exercises?  Back squat, pulldowns, renegade rows, squat jumps, and rear delt flys.

What are your favourite muscle groups to train?  Back, legs, and core.

What are your favourite pieces of equipment?  Barbells and dumbbells.

What is currently on your workout music playlist?  Tycho, Metallica, Dr. Dre, Kodomo, and Washed Out.

How do you psych up for a workout or set?  Coffee and box breathing.

What was one exercise or routine that gave you great gains in muscle mass and/or strength?  4 pillar training from IHP in Boca Raton: push/pull. locomotion, rotation, and level change.

What’s your favourite way to speed up recovery between workouts?  Foam roll and sleep.

What’s your favourite meal?  Jalapeno sweet potatoes with organic chicken breast.

What’s your favourite cheat meal and how often do you indulge?  I don’t believe in cheat meals, I give myself 20% flexibility to eat sweeter foods on heavier training days.

What supplements do you feel work well for you?  BCAA

What do you do to relax?  Yoga, read, write, and muse meditation.

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    June 18, 2016 by Mrsborch from United States

    Ryan inspires me to change my fitness mindset from just doing more reps to creating a body to live the life I want.

  • Lucky find
    May 16, 2016 by Keith3187 from United States

    Stumbled upon this podcast and very glad I did, fantastic guests with tons of evidence based information, highly recommended.

  • Tier 1
    May 14, 2016 by Dragon 1-5 from United States

    Truly a great pod cast very informative and 100% applicable.

  • Great interviews
    May 5, 2016 by Adamdv18 from United States

    Ray has some very interesting guests on here and does a good job of getting some useful information out of them.

  • Intelligent, interesting interviews
    March 25, 2016 by Clown puncher 5000 from United States

    Really. Smart guys.

  • Killer Podcast
    February 26, 2016 by RidgeWC from United States

    Ray puts out a really great show—every episode is top quality!

  • Great work!
    January 14, 2016 by NotMattDamon from Canada

    Impressed by the content and guest - keep up the great work!

  • THE Super Strength Show
    December 14, 2015 by Oastorga from United States

    I came across this podcast through another great podcast (the RDella Podcast) and I must say I'm hooked. I like the action items that are revealed for us to do rather than just taking in more info. I especially like that is simple but not simplistic. I'm 58 years young and shows like this reafirm that I'm doing the right thing. I use Kettlebells, Sandbags, Barbells, Indian Clubs and body weight in my training. I don't look like a fitness model but I feel pretty good. Knowing more and refining techinque has been very important for me. The idea is not to just listen but to do something with the information. The format allows that. Thanks for your hard work.

  • BOOM!
    December 1, 2015 by Getusomemore from United States

    I listened to the entire interview with Danny Kavadlo while I was cooking dinner. VERY good podcast! I give it a ?!!

  • Highly recommend this show
    November 30, 2015 by Altruistic? from United States

    I love this show. Thoughtful host. Interesting guests. Since listening it, I have been giving more consideration to the mental side of training. It's a very encouraging show.

  • Great show!
    November 14, 2015 by Rmolson from United States

    I started training at the age of 41 obese and intimidated. The guests are an inspiration and encouragement toto keep moving forward on this journey.

  • Amazing Content
    November 13, 2015 by MattTucker93 from Canada

    Love listening to this podcast. Amazing information and I always learn something from all the great guests. Thank you!

  • Great show
    September 15, 2015 by unadjective from United States

    Some really cool guests that I wouldn't otherwise come across and Ray does a great job getting into their expertise. Almost always wish the show was longer.

  • I love this
    September 12, 2015 by Mvecdi from Canada

    Please don’t ever stop,i really enjoy it. Wish i found it before. I listen to it while working out or driving etc. Just wanted to tell you to keep doing what you are doing. And would love to see more of people like Mike Israetel etc. Such as Brad Schoenfeld. Anyways love the show, thanks for making it.

  • Very professional
    September 7, 2015 by Ayrshire Lad from United Kingdom

    Always learning something new from Ray and his well selected line up of guests. Sometimes feels a little repetitive as Ray asks all the tried and tested questions to ensure the listener always has a takeaway..its laid back but focused and very professional !!

  • I love this
    September 3, 2015 by Mvecdi from Canada

    Please don’t ever stop,i really enjoy it. Wish i found it before

  • The best podcast in the strength/ fitness industry!
    August 28, 2015 by Powerlifting101 from Canada

    I recommend this podcast to anyone that trying to physically and mental better them self in every aspect.

  • Excellent Resource
    July 25, 2015 by J. Steinmann from United States

    Some great interviews with a wide variety of people. I've listened to a number of episodes, and there's always some great information in every interview. If you're serious about strength training, health and fitness, or just want some good life philosophy, this podcast is worth a listen.

  • Must subscribe!
    July 9, 2015 by Roddygo from United States

    This is one of the best fitness podcasts. A lot of big names from various backgrounds and Ray asks good questions. He also knows when to ask follow up questions without getting too out of subject and having the guests share some more secrets

  • Great Show!
    July 8, 2015 by Wes Kennedy from Canada

    Ray is a great host and has a wide range of quality and professional coaches that have a TON of experience to share with you. Check it out!

  • Excellent interviews!
    July 8, 2015 by another anatomy geek from United States

    Ray does a fantastic job of asking articulate and interesting questions. I always really enjoy his podcasts and learn useful info! Keep up the good work!

  • has become the best Strength podcast
    June 21, 2015 by SuperHuman YYZ from Canada

    I think its overtaken superhuman radio and motivation + muscle as the top podcast for those who love physical culture and the iron game. Ray does a great job interviewing, just the right amount of interjecting his ideas and opinions. The guest list is incredible, the who's who, past and present.

  • The fountain of youth.
    June 10, 2015 by rroxanne from Canada

    Very good . I love the article. I listened to it 3 times to write everything down. Lol. Bad memory. Oh and love Rays voice.

  • just pure MEGA, Pig Iron all the way
    May 25, 2015 by Strongman1981 from United Kingdom

    The Super Strength Show is an amazing and extremely informative resource for anyone involved in physical culture. With an enthusiastic and highly intelligent host and a who’s who’s line up of guests, a must for anyone to sit down, eat grapefruits and enjoy. great work chaps

  • On another level! Once you hear one episode you will have to hear them all!
    May 22, 2015 by Chuck Osswald from United States

    Super Strength Show starts with top performers/coaches/trainers from around the world and chunks down all the important pieces, directed towards any audience. Ray Toulany is unparalled in his ability to make information easy to understand as well as tease out the unspoken gems. You will be glued to your speakers for the entire episode and find yourself eagerly waiting for more. The care put into each episode is clear with a show notes page that helps the curious learn in any medium. Keep up the great work and thanks Ray!

  • A fountain of Strength and training knowledge
    May 14, 2015 by HCF82 from United Kingdom

    After searching for an age to find a good strength podcast I discovered the super strength show through Chris Duffins interview and have been hooked since. The format is excellent with some of the best voices in the world of strength and conditioning appearing. No nonsense straight talking, this really should be one of your first resources to go to if you are a coach or an average joe looking to improve in the weight room.

  • fantastic
    May 10, 2015 by gena_wallis from Australia

    i enjoyed your session.looking forward to more staff.Victor from the Youngpreneurs Podcast!

  • Well structured, interesting, and informative.
    May 2, 2015 by TEEJ888888 from Canada

    I just listened to the first two episodes of the podcast. It's really good. The questions are solid, there is lots of good advice for lifting and for life, and Ray does a good job at interacting with the guest but keeping things on track and flowing. Ray is articulate and the guests seem professional and smart. Overall, I'm very impressed.

  • My top 5 favorite show!
    April 16, 2015 by mrcdmag from United States

    Great show with lots of valuable information! I always have my notebook open and writing.

  • Top strength show
    April 16, 2015 by Alastair7890 from United Kingdom

    Very informative. Top guests

  • Great Show!
    April 10, 2015 by SloneStrength from United States

    Well prepared show. Amazing professionalism! Keep up the great work.

  • AWESOMENESS CONTAINTED
    March 4, 2015 by jamie729 from United Kingdom

    This is an awesome podcast the format, the guests & the topics disscussed are all truely infomative. No BS contained the show always opens up new schools of thoughts and ideas to the listeners. keep up the good work.

  • Subscribe, instantly addictive
    March 2, 2015 by thebroadkaz from Canada

    This show is amazing to listen to it motivates you not only for the gym but for setting and achieving goals in your every day life. Very motivating and positive. Truly helps to get you in the right frame of mind for life and for the gym.

  • An absolutely ace show everytime
    February 24, 2015 by Tommy Eggleton from United Kingdom

    This show is phenomenal! The format and repeated questions for each episode keep the show driving forward, the guests have had ample time to prepare excellent and considered opinions and yet the show never feels like anything but no-BS conversations on building seuperhuman strength and mighty bodies. The host, Ray Toulany, consistently does a marvellous job of drawing out even more from his guests than the material they've prepared and some of the stories that are teased out are superb. I wholeheartedly recommend this to anybody that trains, thinks about training, or simply admires strength sports and bodybuilding in general.

  • Great Resource
    February 4, 2015 by Velvet Jones81 from United States

    For someone new to the strength sports like myself this show has been a great resource. Thanks for doing this show. It has helped a lot.

  • Paul McIlroy
    February 2, 2015 by Paul McIlroy from United Kingdom

    I've been an avid aficionado of all things strength and physical culture related for the vast majority of my entire life. As a former world champion powerlifter and trainer of world champions in different strength sports I can honestly say that Ray Toulany's Super Strength Show is an absolutely INVALUABLE resource for those wishing/needing to maximise their holistic understanding of strength, what it is to be strong, why that is important and how to best achieve it! The list of guests reads like a star studded "who's who" of strength and conditioning ROYALTY! Plus, more than anything the interviews are a ton of fun and provide a fascinating insight into the very best in the business and what makes them tick. It was my complete pleasure and privilege to be a guest on this amazing show (episode 37). If YOU claim to be serious about strength training and are not currently subscribed to THIS show, my honest advice is do so immediately...if not sooner!

  • Super Strength Show
    January 26, 2015 by Joeino from United States

    I love this podcast as I seem to pick up valuable information from each guest. Listing to this is a fun and productive use of my time

  • Excellent Information
    January 26, 2015 by TaylorrrrNB from United States

    These guys obviously do their homework, work hard to create an excellent show and know who to interview in the world of strength and fitness! I’m very impressed by what they have created and the quality of what they do. You need to subscribe! TODAY!!

  • by Brandon Richey
    January 22, 2015 by Great Work SSS from United States

    The Super Strength Show is a fantastic resource for all things concerning strength, fitness, and life. The multitude of guests provides tons of information and perspectives that every listener will appreciate. If you’re serious about strength and the physical culture this is a resource that you just can’t pass up!

  • Very glad I stumbled across this podcast!
    January 22, 2015 by rk102 from United States

    Great info from big-time guests in the strength and conditioning world. Keep up the great work, Ray!

  • Awesome show
    January 13, 2015 by Bonjower from Canada

    The Podcast is the best I’ve encountered in the fitness/bodybuilding sector. The host has a great ability to pull the pertinent information out of his guests. The topics are great and you seem to be able to get useful information out of every interview! Awesome podcast!!

  • Do yourself a favour and subscribe
    January 1, 2015 by GameOverBoss from Canada

    The amount of info and resources in the SuperStrengthShow is just incredible. All of this coming from guests that are the best of the best in their fields. Great questions are asked to these guys and some really insightful answers given (along with a few laughs). I hate wasting time and i'm always looking to evolve and refine my training. This podcast has saved me hours of digging through the crazy crap on the internet to find valid info. It has also introduced me to things i would have never thought to look up. Really can’t recommend enough.

  • Master SFG
    December 24, 2014 by X-Fab69 from Italy

    Awesome Podcast! A whole lot of great and useful information provided by very accomplished athletes and coaches with an extended experience on the ground!

  • Charles C
    December 22, 2014 by CharlieConnely from Canada

    Very impressed with the quality guests that the Super Strength Show is interviewing. Loaded with with actionable and inspiring information. Great production quality and daily episodes!

  • Well done Ray
    December 19, 2014 by Matt McWilliams from United States

    Wow…Super Strenght Show Podcast is flat out awesome. Good production quality. Easy to listen. Very impressed Ray. Keep bringing it.

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