In this episode of the Super Strength Show, strength and conditioning coach, Eric Bach, comes on to discuss his new program “The Power Primer 2.0”. The basis for the product is Power Development and how focusing on explosive movements and rep speed can improve strength, build muscle, and help with fat loss.
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[0:00:18.9] RT: What’s up Strength Maniacs? And thanks for tuning in. I’m pleased to welcome back today’s guest, Eric Bach. If you haven’t had the opportunity to listen to our first interview with Eric, you can check out Episode 70 where he outlines proven strategies for building a stronger, more athletic and shredded body.
For those who need an introduction, here is a quick recap of today’s featured guest. Eric is a certified strength and conditioning coach and precision nutrition certified coach. He has a bachelor’s of science degree emphasizing in sports performance training. Eric is also a fitness author and owner of Bach Performance.
His writings on performance and body composition training have been featured in numerous publications from CNN, Huffington Post, T Nation, The PDDC and Bodybuilding.com to the American Council On Exercise. Today we want to bring Eric back on the show to discuss his new product at the power primer. The basis for the product is power development and how focusing on explosive movements and reps speed can improve strength, build muscle and help with fat loss.
There are tons of actionable strategies and direct programming in his new program. Not only that but be sure to listen until the end as Eric is going to be hooking us up, you, that’s right, the listeners with a huge discount offer. To connect with Eric, you can visit his website at BachPerformance.com.
Eric, welcome back to the show, it’s a pleasure to get you back on here man and I’m ready to dig in to this dude.
[0:01:47.5] EB: Hey man, I’m happy to be here, it’s great to be back.
[0:01:49.9] RT: Excellent man, it’s always good to have a guest come back on the show, it’s a lot of fun, we’ve obviously got to build some rapport and what not from last time and this one here is great because we get to do a bit of a free flowing cut in the session. Here we go man, let’s dig in but before we do, for those who haven’t heard the first interview with you, if you wouldn’t mind, tell just a little bit about yourself, give us a couple of minutes man so people can kind of know who you are and who they’re listening to, why they should listen to you?
[0:02:15.4] EB: Yeah, background on me, I got my start in the industry in a fairly young in college working as a collegiate strength conditioning coach while I was still finishing my degree. Through that process I’m getting a lot of hands on experience and one of the benefits of going to a little bit smaller university.
With that, I was able to jump right in to the professional field working at an awesome facility out here in Denver Colorado which was partially owned by Steve Hess, strength coach at Denver Nuggets. That allowed me to really kind of hone in and get a little taste of performance while also working with quite a bit of a general population.
That’s where I first started to form my niche where I really enjoy helping guys that are ex-athletes and helping them improve their athleticism while also building the best looking bodies. From there on, I worked on Steadman Hawkins Performance with Loren Landow for a few years, I’m under his tutelage, great coach. From there on, I’ve started Bach Performance and now run Bach Performance independently.
[0:03:12.3] RT: There you go, good pedigree man, good background, some great information. It’s amazing man, how many guest we have on the show and how many of you guys are out there man, guest experts that just have this tremendous background. I appreciate you taking the time to come on here, I know obviously we’re going to discuss a product that you have and some people may think this is going to be a pitch fest but no, not at all.
We’re going to actually dig in here and we’re going to dig up some good kernels that people could apply in their day to day training without even buying the product, just to give them a taste but that being said, highly recommend you get your hands on the complete system because that’s when you’re going to get the real value because you’re going to have the whole entire thing to work with there which is important to make sure you’re doing things correctly and you’re doing all of the things you need to do to get the best results.
With that being said Eric. Tell me man, Power Primer, what is the product, what are we talking about here? It’s like a course of some sort, what are we talking?
[0:04:08.2] EB: The Power Primer is a three tiered system, a workup program if you will. Now, within the program, what we’re really focusing on is incorporating some of the same athletic principles that are used for power development and the flood system and applying those to guys that aren’t necessarily competitive athletes anymore but are looking to improve their performance and improve their body composition at the same time.
With that, we’re talking about rep speed, moving faster, jumps, throws and some of these other components that tend to fall out of our favor or out of our programs as we get away from competitive sports and more into a sedentary lifestyle, desk job, just hitting the weights a couple of times a week when we’re able but not having quite as high a priority on sport performance and movement.
[0:04:49.8] RT: All right, sounds good. Okay, so let’s dig in to this a little bit further now that we got kind of the overview. Tell me, what is the general core concept behind this and how is it applied in the program?
[0:05:01.9] EB: The big core concept behind this is using maximum explosive intent. What that means, when you’re lifting weight, you are focused, you’re honed in on as much force as you can. We’ve all seen a guy who is doing a squat and kind of going through the motions, say he’s even 135, a fairly light weight versus a guy who regards to the weight on the bar is attacking every rep.
He’s mentally focused when it comes on as much force as he can on each rep, regardless of weight on the bar. Now, this gives us a couple of awesome benefits. First and foremost, we can do more with less, so we don’t need quite as much weight so we have a little bit less joint stress/compressive stress depending on the exercise sheer stress to help the body feel a little bit better and allow how your training frequency.
Now, we can also increase motor unit recruitments looking at the size principle. If you look at the size principle, the idea there is, we can increase muscle unit recruitment or motor unit recruitment in two different ways. First one, lift heavy weights, simple. I don’t think with most of the listeners here that there’s a problem with lifting more and more weight, am I right?
[0:06:06.9] RT: No I don’t think so.
[0:06:08.4] EB: No. But the other way, which can be a little better bang for your buck and provide a little bit of a de-load for the body, lifting lighter weights faster or with maximum explosive intent. That can be talking about using some strength speed, speed strength type percentages anywhere from 30 to 70% give or take to have a high level of muscle fibre recruitment, yet a little bit less stress on the body.
[0:06:30.3] RT: Okay, so let me get this straight, my understanding is I think a good way of saying it, an example would be imagine having like a train, you had like a pan, almost like a cookie sheet. Okay? You’re holding on to this thing and then you’re kind of swinging it around in the air, you’re feeling the wind resistance and the harder you swing it around, the more resistance you feel, although it’s very light, there isn’t much to it, the quicker you move it, the more force you need to put into it to move it around.
Now, obviously when you’re lifting weights, you don’t have the wind resistance but it’s kind of a concept like that. Although it’s a lighter load, if you lift it with much more intention, just lot more explosiveness and try to move it faster, you’re saying that it’s going to exert more force in the muscles, is that how it is? How does that exactly work?
[0:07:20.8] EB: Yeah, what happens is muscle fibres are recruited based upon demand. Let’s look at another example. Say you’re walking down the street and a car comes barreling towards you, what’s your first reaction?
[0:07:35.9] RT: Hulk smash — probably get the heck out of the way.
[0:07:38.8] EB: Get the heck out of the way, right? We have that impulse where we send the signal to our body that, “Hey, we need to move, we need to generate as much force of these muscles as we possibly can to get up and get out of the way.” With lifting weights, we can apply that same theory is we can kind of half way go through the motions on the rep and the nervous system is only going to call the reps that are needed to go and produce the movement at the rate in which we’re trying to move.
That’s where the example of the half speed squat comes in where guys now really push in that tempo. By using that same neuro impulse, we can focus on trying to go up as hard as possible. Think of it like a dynamic effort type work. Using that same forceful intent, that’s where we’re going to increase muscle fibre recruitment.
[0:08:29.1] RT: Okay. Okay, got you. You were saying a moment ago that the benefit of that is you are not applying as much wear and tear to the body because you’re using a lighter weight? Does that make sense?
[0:08:39.9] EB: Yeah, generally speaking. We could talk about different factors like shotgun the joints and what not later on, however first and foremost, most guys tend to absolutely love lifting heavy and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it. However overdone, which there’s a tendency for most of us to do, we can have quite a bit of neural stress, joint stress, ligament stress that over time can really beat up the body.
Now if we can do more with less or have the same reward with a little less risk in terms of long term training consistency and allow little higher training frequency, I think that’s a good bet and that’s one benefit of using lighter loads, more of a dynamic effort, Power Primer style.
[0:09:18.8] RT: Right. Okay. Now, are you going to get the same effect though using a light weight even though you’re moving it very quickly compared to a heavier weight?
[0:09:27.8] EB: That really depends what your goal is. This is where it gets into each unique program. Obviously if you want to get maximally strong, you have to lift heavy weights. I’m not saying that that’s the way to completely abandon that aspect. However, if we’re looking at increase in athleticism and kind of bridge the gap between a pure speed and a pure strength movement, lifting lighter, heavier weights is going to let some guys improve that athleticism and have a little more real word carrier to what they’re doing things outside the weight room.
[0:09:55.0] RT: Okay. Okay, and that’s because you’re saying, in the real world, like you’re saying about the car, it’s more explosive type of movements when you’re on the field like athletically speaking?
[0:10:04.9] EB: Yes, athletically speaking we’re working against a lighter resistance. So if we look at a force velocity curve with a sport, generally you’re just moving your bodyweight through space or against a smaller resistance. So by bridging that gap and not necessarily going for a pure speed movement and just using bodyweight, we can bridge a gap by using some lighter weighted movements that are going to help focus on the velocity component and still generate a lot of force that way.
[0:10:29.3] RT: Okay, here’s a question I got for you. There’s something called a Tendo unit. I believe a tendo unit is a device, I think that’s like a branded name but anyway, it’s a device you put in a barbell and it essentially will tell you how quickly you lift the bar or how much force you’re putting into the bar I believe.
I know there’s a whole type of training, a method of training that tracks, again, the speed of the bar and obviously you have to factor in the load on the bar as well but if your speed starts to dip to a certain point, you’re basically — you’re done for the day basically is the idea. If you go into the gym and your speed is not where it’s supposed to be and you’re supposed to be lifting at a certain speed then again, you’re either training’s not right or you’re not recovered, something’s not correct with load and right.
Anyway, the point I’m trying to make is, you have a device that’s giving you hard data, it’s telling you, you are moving at a certain speed or putting a certain amount of force into the bar. With somebody who is training like this at home and using this concept of speed while lifting the load. How do they gauge whether or not they’re lifting fast enough, how does that work? Or is that even a factor?
[0:11:35.7] EB: Yeah, it’s definitely a factor and one big component of this is going to be auto regulation honestly. How do you feel on the rep, technique changing, are you compensating some threat to kinetic chain, are you racking at a different point, if you’re doing a clean? These are all things you’re going to have to look at individually.
However one thing, a little trick I like to use is for example on a squat, instead of having the weights completely fast and down with the cliff, move that clip out maybe an inch or two. Once you feel that weight’s stopped rattling, you know what I’m talking about? When you come up fast enough, the way it jumps a little bit. That’s a good queue that your speed is slowing down.
You could also take a video even, look at yourself and break down your technique post workout and see at what point are you starting to fatigue? The big point right there though as you’re kind of mentioning this with a Tendo unit. You get to a certain point and that rep speed slows down, your power output’s going to decrease.
That becomes a matter of neuro fatigue versus neuro recovery. That’s going to be highly individualized, however the biggest component there is going to be the rest that you’re taking between and any changes you’re going to have in technique.
[0:12:42.4] RT: Okay, interesting. Now, break down for us, what are the workouts like and essentially what type of results should somebody expect? What sort of mindset that they bring to the workouts and what type of results should they expect?
[0:12:57.7] EB: What’s in the power primer, there’s three different workouts. One is focusing on building athletic strength, that’s going to focus both on getting stronger and then incorporating some athletic values. Athletic values are going to be throughout the entire workout plan. That’s going to be using some more explosive movements to increase athleticism.
Now with that program, we are going to get into some fairly heavy weights up to 95% give or take one RM with a sound progressive plan for a 12 week plan. Now, for a lot of people you’re going to see significant increase in weight, maybe 10, 15, 20 pounds in terms of numbers that are going up. When I ran my test group on this, we had a couple of guys that were up as high as 40 pounds up on their max. That was absolutely fantastic to see.
Now, when we look at the muscle building program, that’s going to be highly individualized based on how much you adhere to nutrition, you and I both know that we can lift with all the volume and all the intensity boosting methods that we want, but if you’re not getting calories, it’s just not going to happen. That said, in a 12 week plan, most of these lifters are going to be intermediate to advanced, we’ll see anywhere from six to 10 pounds of muscle in nutrition is on par.
Now, what we do in terms of muscle building that’s a little bit different is we still use some explosive movement but we think about that as more or less potentiating a greater number of muscle fibres to fatigue. You can only more or less stimulate a growth response for muscle fibre are getting stimulated within a training session. That’s where some of the strength working come in. The muscle fibres and then we add in some density boosting measures later on that are going to help provide some of that metabolic stress, mechanical tension and muscular damage for growth.
Going forward, we’ll also have the fat loss program. The fat loss program is a little bit different than all three because they’re going to be obviously operating in a caloric deficit which isn’t always the most fun. What we’ll do there is we’ll have a combination of heavy loading and lighter, more explosive loading to really help hold on to muscle mass where in a caloric deficit.
At the same time we’ll also use some high density training and a greater level of conditioning where we’re getting into some more athletic type drills, sprint work, to help take off body fat. Overall, all the workouts should be able to be completed 50 to 65 minutes give or take, they’re not extremely long but they are focused and predicated on quality over quantity which is always a good thing.
[0:15:11.0] RT: Yeah, it’s interesting because we just had a guest on, Craig Weller. We were talking about deliberate practice and making sure that it’s quality because he was talking about the study, the 10,000 hour rule and how it’s not just a set in stone, just 10,000 hours all of a sudden you’re Mozart. Some people did 10,000 hours and they became world class, other people did 10,000 hours or 8,000, whatever the number was in the specific study but again it relates to that whole 10,000 hour rule idea.
Some became like Mozart and some really didn’t get that much better and it all depended on the quality of the training. I hear what you’re saying, the workouts are a little shorter but at the end of the day it’s about quality. Okay, tell us, now, with the concept of being very explosive, what about risk for injury, does injury risk go up? How does that work?
[0:15:57.8] EB: That was an important point when I was putting this piece together. So what I have included is a full exercise substitution guide throughout the program. If you don’t know how to do a clean, by all means, I would love for you to learn, it’s a great lift with a lot of unique benefits, but you’re not forced into any particular exercise. The big focus for the entire program is using explosive intent.
What I urge everybody to do is pick exercises that match a particular movement pattern but then focus on using explosive intent. That means instead of necessarily doing a clean with 60 or 70% as it’s listed in your program, if you don’t know how to clean, fine. Do a front squat, do a back squat with those same percentages but just have that explosive intent all the way throughout.
Or, if you can do a barbell bench press because your shoulder is not happy, feel free to switch and use a buffalo bar, use a floor press or use some dumbbells with some explosive intent. That’s the big bridging factor. Lift everything explosively when it’s needed, those first main lifts.
[0:16:53.8] RT: Okay, all right, that’s good. Basically what you’re saying is, you provide substitutes so people can work around an impossible preexisting injuries maybe or if they’re not familiar with certain movements so they can avoid getting injured to begin with.
[0:17:06.8] EB: Exactly. Never want to shove a square peg into a round hole, it’s just not going to work. In terms of improving your movements and staying injury free, we all know exercises that are better for us than others, we all have problem exercises that are unique to our body, whether it’s a different type of deadlift, whether a trap bar works better than a conventional pull versus a sumo deadlift. Use what works best for you, granted within that movement pattern.
[0:17:33.1] RT: Okay, yeah. Yeah because there’s a handful of movement patterns and then obviously within each movement pattern, there’s a huge variety of exercises. Certainly there’s got to be something somewhere that will suit your abilities, your mobility, potential existing injuries, old injuries and you’ll be okay.
Okay, so what you’re saying is, in all likelihood, you can apply all aspects of this program as long as you’re relatively healthy, correct?
[0:17:59.3] EB: Exactly, exactly.
[0:18:01.5] RT: Okay, we’re going to go to a break here in a moment but before we do, I should have probably asked this earlier on but what are we getting in this package?
[0:18:09.4] EB: Yeah, so this package, this week actually is going to be $29.99. That’s 50% off with the price going forward. Now, within each program, you’re going to get three 12 week programs, that’s 36 weeks or about eight months’ worth of programming, full progression, the entire weight through and exercise substitution guide within also an entire video guide to cover every exercise that’s in the Power Primer and a one rep max guidelines. That will give you the opportunity to test, assess and find correct numbers for your Power Primer workouts.
[0:18:41.6] RT: Okay, I’m assuming this is digital version is what you’re getting? It’s not a physical product, it’s digital, right?
[0:18:46.9] EB: Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, the entire thing, it’s a digital product that will be available for download so you’ll be able to take it with you when you go into the gym, whether you want to download it on your laptop, on your smart phone or tablet, whatever you want, it’s going to be easily downloadable and digital.
[0:19:01.8] RT: Okay, we’re talking just text, PDF’s, are we talking video?
[0:19:06.9] EB: We’ve got a combination. It’s going to be PDF based, however there’s also an entire video guide for every exercise that is in the Power Primer. You have a full video guide with exercise and instruction. Queue’s, video demonstrations to help you optimize your form, minimize risk of injury and optimize performance.
[0:19:27.0] RT: Okay, all right, it sounds like it covers pretty much everything. All right, let’s go to a break, we’ll come back, we’ll cover a couple more questions and we’ll dig in to a couple of good nuggets that people can take away in the plan of their training, sounds good?
[0:19:36.6] EB: Sounds good man.
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[0:20:57.1] RT: All right guys, we’re back with our guest, Eric Bach from BachPerformance.com and ThePowerPrimer.com. Eric, prior to going to break, we were starting to get into some specifics and details. During the break we were kind of talking and I was thinking to myself, “This sounds like it’s designed for young athlete of some sort.” So I’ve got a couple of questions here. Is this really limited to people who are either athletes or who have athletic type of a background?
[0:21:23.3] EB: This program is best for people who have some experience in the gym but it doesn’t necessarily have to be for competitive athlete. The big take away with the Power Primer is lifting faster, moving like an athlete, we’re going to incorporate jumps and those and some of those principles and components of athletic training programs but it’s not fully built for athletes. You can reap some of the same benefits build that show and go style body where you’re strong, athletic and capable but it’s not fully versed towards athletes.
[0:21:51.3] RT: Okay, all right. Now, what about the age thing? I have my own opinion on that kind of stuff but anyway I know some people will be asking that. Is this meant for somebody who is younger as supposed to somebody who is 40 plus?
[0:22:03.1] EB: Nope, I’ve had a number of clients that are 40 plus go through his program and it works awesome. A big reason for that is as we get older, we tend to shy away from some of these explosive movements and that’s for good reason because a lot of times if we do them incorrectly, we can have some compounding joint issues that add up over time.
For guys over 40, I have quite a few clients actually who are in this age range. 35, 40, 45 who are ex-athletes, work a typical desk job and one of the big missing components of their program is athletic and explosive movement. So by reincorporating some of the same values whether they’re jumps, throws, lifting with more of a kind of a dynamic effort perspective, we can activate some of those high threshold muscle fibres that are more or less kind of getting shut down with age.
This is going to help improve athleticism. A lot of times I’ll find that they’re feeling better, better balanced strength coordination and all components that are going to be vital to longevity and athleticism as you get older.
[0:22:57.3] RT: Yeah, it’s a good point, I remember reading something years ago. Clarence Bass I think is who it was. A few years back and he was talking about how he noticed his explosiveness, the spring in his step is something that he really noticed was kind of fading away as he aged. He was getting up there, he was like 60, 70’s and he was really noticing this.
So he started to introduce some Olympic style type of movement, some more explosive type movements and that really made a big difference for hm. Obviously he get to do this intelligently, don’t be foolish about it but yeah, that does seem to be something that does fade if you do not keep it going and stay on top of it and train the athletic component of your body.
This is something you’re saying in fact, it’s the opposite, it’s not that it’s not good for somebody over 40, in fact, it’s good for somebody over 40 because this is the type of physicality or athleticism that you start to lose potentially. You kind of notice it more as you age correct?
[0:23:54.0] EB: Yeah, 100%, and you bring up a really good point talking about all that stuff. We look at quality of life through the aging process as we get older and you know, we talk about this athletic training methods, they sounds awesome and sexy and, “Ah, yeah, let’s get somebody jacked but nothing is more practical than helping somebody preserve their physical capacity as long as humanly possible.
Just by applying the same intent, whether you’re using a dumbbell, whether you’re walking up a stair. Have a little more intent on what you’re doing, have a little more pop. You don’t have to be doing power cleans, step jumps and all these high intensity crazy measures but having that focus and applying a little bit more pop and focus on each exercise into that can be really beneficial throughout the aging process.
You touched on the idea that you have to do something, you have to do everything with intent and safely, you’re going to treat 55 year old than a 70 year old differently than a 25 year old. The same principles can apply across a lifespan as long as you use them intelligently.
[0:24:51.8] RT: Okay, cool. Okay, this is something I got to ask you. When I was first introduced to the concept of compensatory accelerated training, you’re using bins, you’re using chains and the benefit of that is you can extend all the way to full extension and the added weight which slow you down enough that you’re not going to hyper extend a joint.
When we talk about explosive type of movements, is that something that you got to be cautious of, how does that kind of factor into things?
[0:25:18.0] EB: Yeah, that can be an important point. Using bands as some of these other methods can decrease will be called ballistic shock and trauma on the joints. However at the same time, I’m just speaking from practical firsthand experience. I haven’t really noticed much of an issue with those component. Have you really — like I said, I’ve read about it numerous times, I’ve used plenty of bands in my training and with clients for that compulsive story acceleration but have you seen any issues with clients that you’re working with , or personally?
[0:25:44.9] RT: No, I’ve never have personally known. I have again, I’m trying to think like times when I’ve done speed reps without bands or chains and no, I’ve never really noticed any issues at all actually. There’s enough weight there that it’s not like I’m not using any weight and it’s really easy to — it’s like trying to punch somebody and that feeling you get, not that you run around punching people, then again there are people out there probably — That’s not right people. I’m just kidding, don’t go around punching people.
That kind of idea, you go to hit something and you miss or you’re coming down the stairs and you miss the step and you kind of hyper extend your leg a little bit if that makes sense or like hit a pot hole when you’re walking. It’s like that concern, you’re going to jar your joint. Yeah, now that I think about it, I’ve never really ever had that issue. I’m sure if I had just the bar, maybe a plate, maybe okay, at that point in time it’s so light that I may do that but no, once you get any reasonable amount of weight. No.
It’s so light that you move it super quick but yeah, you’re not going to hurt yourself. I want to add to that. Do you use bands or chains in this program?
[0:26:52.2] EB: I do not in the program, mostly because that adds a very big level of complexity and a lot of people are not able to use when it comes to a program. There’s something I definitely use in the past and if you have experience with it, by all means, feel free to play around a little bit as long as you’re loading parameters, the weight plus the resistance of a band or a chain, whatever you plan to use. Stays within the percentages, recommended in the power primer but really for ease of access and programming for a lot of people, that’s not something that’s included.
[0:27:20.9] RT: Okay, cool. All right. You don’t need to get extra equipment is what you’re saying?
[0:27:24.9] EB: Exactly. This should be able to be done with a bare bones gym, whether it’s a dumbbells, barbells, all that stuff and like you said. Bands can be great and focusing on acceleration through different ranges of motion is awesome but doesn’t have to be part of the program.
[0:27:41.3] RT: Okay. Okay now Eric, how about you give us like a specific one, two, specific examples of how you can apply these concepts. Like something that we could use right now in our training like while we’re listening to this or like the next day, so we could just get a taste of what this program is about. Are you able to do that?
[0:28:02.2] EB: Yeah I can do that. You guys are pretty cool, I can do that.
[0:28:04.9] RT: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m not sure like you’ve got to have like the whole thing laid out in front of you or no, these are actually one technique, one tip that somebody can walk away with and just try it and then they’ll actually get a feel for it. You’re saying yes, that is possible. Let’s go for it man. What’s that like?
[0:28:20.7] EB: Yeah, after you warm up, you should all be doing a warm up right? We definitely at that part, you can’t just be skipping that over, I know we’re all guilty but go through your warm-up. Before you get to your main lift of the day, we can say it’s a bench press for example. We’re going to focus on doing an exercise by mechanically similar but focus on being as explosive as possible.
This is going to do a couple of things. First because the exercise bio-mechanically similar so we can do a plyometric pushup, a clap push up. Any sort of exercise that is a horizontal push that is similar to a bench press. We’re going to fire up the central nervous system and get that ready for a performance. Essentially what’s going to happen is you’re going to improve more in your recruitment and patterning for that big lift. Does that make sense?
[0:29:04.8] RT: Yeah, definitely. It’s like you’re firing things up.
[0:29:07.7] EB: Exactly. So I’ll take it a step further, and go a little geeky on it but really we would consider this is intramuscular coordination. That’s the synchronized firing of motor units. Now, there are three different aspects that improve that intramuscular coordination that are all going to happen when you use an explosive exercise, before the main exercise for potentiation. We’ll be called rate coating.
Think of that like firing up a motor unit a little bit faster. It’s almost like going from a single shot pistol to a semi-automatic gun. The more powerful, the more rapidly you’re going to be able to generate that force. You’re also going to be able to create a greater unit of muscle fibres or greater number of muscle units and muscle fibres.
That’s going to help you instead of say using 70% of muscle fibres, 75. You get that little boost in performance. Third, you’re also going to have synchronization. For synchronization, think about rowing a boat. If you had four people rowing together versus each person rowing at their own pace, what’s going to be more effective? Obviously the four people that are rowing together, right?
[0:30:08.4] RT: Obviously yeah.
[0:30:10.9] EB: The synchronization is going to help synchronize…
[0:30:14.7] RT: Otherwise they wouldn’t have that lazy bastard up at the front just hollering at them, the fifth guy, telling them to all row together at the same time.
[0:30:20.3] EB: That guy’s a prick I’ll tell you what man.
[0:30:22.1] RT: All right.
[0:30:24.3] EB: Yeah so all three of these together though are going to improve that intramuscular coordination so you’re going to have more muscle fibres that are going together, more muscle fibres firing, they’re going to fire together and they’re going to fire faster.
All three of those components, granted you manage fatigue and take 60 to 90 seconds rest in between each sets that you’re going three sets of five and then maybe another two minutes after that explosive exercise, that’s going to help potentiate your body, warm me up for a little bit more better bench press.
[0:30:53.3] RT: Okay, so how do we apply this? We’re going to the workout, how are we going to actually apply this thing? We’re in the gym, what are we doing?
[0:30:59.0] EB: All right, step one, warm up. Do whatever your normal warm up, just go through that, excellent. Let’s say you’re going to do an incline bench pushups, your hands are on the bench, you lower yourself down and do an explosive pushup projecting yourself up beside you can before you catch yourself and repeat again.
You’ll go three sets of five, take 60 to 90 seconds down in between each set and then take two minutes down after your last set. After the first set. Then you would be able to jump right into your bench press, whatever percentages and training numbers you’re working at. With that, you’re going to have all that improved intramuscular coordination to help you use more muscle fibres, have them fire the same time in synchronized movement.
[0:31:39.7] RT: Okay, so this doesn’t sound overly complicated?
[0:31:41.9] EB: No, not at all, that’s the beauty of it. In the book, I lay it out as simply as we can with the science laid out. The science is complicated, however being able to sift through it and hone the big idea, that’s the cool thing about the Power Primer. Match the explosive — or focus on explosive demand and match the same mechanical movement for the big lift that you’re doing for the day.
So if it’s going to be a squat, you can do a squat jump. If it’s going to be a deadlift you can do a light kettlebell swing or a broad jump, it’s going to be an overhead press, could be an overhead throw with a medicine ball, over head slam with a medicine ball or sand-bell.
[0:32:18.0] RT: Okay. Pretty easy, what was that last one you said?
[0:32:21.4] EB: Sand-bell. Yeah.
[0:32:25.0] RT: Tell us about those.
[0:32:25.8] EB: Yeah. If you get a medicine ball that’s going to have some bounce and you do an overhead slam — I’ll cover the overhead slam in a second. Imagine holding a medicine ball over your head, arms are locked out, looking straight ahead, keep your abs braced and prevent flection forward, so you’re not bending over forward.
As your abs are engaged, you throw the ball down as hard as you can without flexing forward. That’s really going to fire up the lats and into your core and provide a little more activation and stabilization through the kinetic chain. Now, if you have a ball that’s bouncy, where’s that ball going to go? Probably your teeth or your nuts.
[0:32:58.0] RT: Your teeth, yeah.
[0:32:59.0] EB: Yeah, so either one of those. What a sand-bell is, sand-bell is I think they come anywhere from about eight pounds to I think all the way up to 40 but 10 to 12 pounds is good for this exercise. This is a very durable bag that’s filled with sand, it’s got a neoprene cover, just very resistant to damage. When you throw a sand on the ground, its’ not going to bounce up and hit your buddies or your teeth. Just a different piece of equipment to protect yourself.
[0:33:25.1] RT: Okay, all right. I’ve seen those around but I sometimes forget about them but yeah, definitely got to have the right equipment. I remember seeing a guy one time taking a sledge hammer to a tire and he didn’t realize that you got to be careful because it’s going to bounce back, there’s a big tire, big bouncy tire, just the way the specific tire was setup.
I think it was off of like a — man, what do they call those things? All of a sudden I forget. Those little tiny units that I use. It’s got a little bucket on the front of it, they use them to clear. Bobcat, it was like a bobcat tire. It’s like a little tiny earth moving thing. They use them a lot of times to clear the snow off sidewalks in cities.
Anyway man, this tire, it’s a good sized tire but the way it was setup was vertical. He was coming down on the tire the way it would be like on the actual vehicle if that makes sense, it’s actually sitting on its tread. Because it was setup like that, had a lot of bounce to it. Man he came down on that thing, he is so lucky that he only got the handle on the forehead. He didn’t get the head of the actual sledge hammer, the head of it, back into his teeth or into his nose.
Anyway, I was watching him and I was going. I was just — I turned around and saw and said, “Woah, woah, you’ve got to hold on, you got to watch how you do” — boom, right into his face. Poor guy man but he was lucky, he didn’t split anything open or anything like that. He had a bit of a bruise going on there but yeah. That’s something to kind of mention here guys. Not only do you got to do the exercises right but make sure you’re using the right equipment. Anyway, that’s it for that. Enough for that PSA, “The more you know”.
[0:34:51.0] EB: You got a beautiful voice.
[0:34:52.0] RT: You like that?
[0:34:53.4] EB: I do, yeah.
[0:34:54.5] RT: Definitely. I got to tell you, I’ve been working on it, I’ve been in the opera, I’ve been working on being a soprano and just got to finalize the last little operation to get rid of the boys and make sure I can really hit them high pitch, high notes. It will be great. Anyway, then I won’t have to worry about using sand bells when I’m doing that.
No, getting back to all seriousness. Okay, it doesn’t sound like the concept is really complicated. Now, the last question I got here and we’re probably going to wrap this up. You need to mentally remind yourself to really push right? To explode through the movement. Is that going to become an issue near the end of a set? I don’t know how many reps you got in sets or near the end of the workout where you’re starting to fatigue.
[0:35:38.2] EB: When we’re talking about really applying that rep speed, it’s really going to mostly apply for the early exercise that we’re focusing on. Especially if we’re talking about a muscle building workout. For example, if we’re doing a set of 15 in a bicep curl, I’m not going to have you necessarily focus on maximum concentric explosiveness at every single rep.
Now, for the early sets, it’s going to be your focus but reps are held pretty low for that reason. As you mentioned, it can be mentally fatiguing to stay locked in for all these aspects but that’s also an area I can see lot of guys really improving, a lot of men and women when they’re doing their training.
We all walk in to a general gym these days and we see somebody on their smart phone or tweeting between every single set rather being focused and engaged on what they’re doing. Just adding that explosive intent and that mindset is going to help you lock in the little more keen in terms of your technique, how you’re performing every single rep and that alone can be a big performance advancer.
[0:36:30.2] RT: Okay, all right, good. Yeah man, I think this is a training method that not too many people, your average, guys going to the gym and gals going to the gym really use. I think this would be a very interesting way to go about training for a while definitely. Just to kind of be clear here before we close this up. You’re saying, when you purchase the product, you’re getting a 12 week training block, are you saying you’re getting 12 week training blocks?
[0:36:55.8] EB: Yeah, you’re getting three full 12 week training blocks. Within each of those training blocks, there’s a one rep max guide to help you calculate your numbers that are used within the Power Primer. Within that, you’re also getting an exercise substitution guide. So if there is exercises that you’re not comfortable with whether it’s an Olympic lift, you’re going to have something that you can switch out and still be able to hit that workout without missing a beat. Or for example, you’re at a hotel gym, you might not be able to hit your percentages but you can flip out exercises and use dumbbells for an exercise as needed.
[0:37:27.4] RT: Okay. All right. Just to be clear, the three blocks that you’re getting, are they all like this one focused on fat loss, one is focused on muscle gain? What are the different blocks focused on?
[0:37:39.4] EB: Yeah, three different blocks, there’s the Power Primer athletic muscle guide and that’s about 12 weeks long and that’s going to use some power performance principles the beginning but then focus more on bodybuilding methods later on. The fat loss program is going to be focused and predicated on explosive movement and some heavy strength work to help you hold on to lean muscle while you’re in your dietary deficit.
You’ll look no better if you lose all your muscle at the same time on a cut. So that’s an important component there. The athletic strength program, that’s going to get you stronger, improve athleticism, speed, power, all that stuff, that’s another 12 week program. So three 12 week programs that have athleticism as an underlying theme but are then customized towards a goal.
[0:38:20.7] RT: All right. Sounds good to me. Yeah man, I love it when somebody like yourself takes an effective training method that is based in real science and then is able to essentially simplify it, codify it and put it into a system with the rest of us to follow. Guys, you always hear me say that the only real shortcut, closest thing to a shortcut is doing it right the first time and that requires you ultimately to have a mentor, a guide, somebody who has been there, done that — you hear me say it all the time.
Someone who has been there, done that, has taken others like you there and has come back to the Promised Land to take you there too. Ideally if that person was in the position similar to you, it’s really helpful but really important is that they’ve helped others, they have that ability to do that. Now, not everybody has somebody close by to them. In person, its’ the best thing. Then you obviously have the internet which is a wonderful thing especially now with, you got videos chat and you could record videos and send it over and emails.
There’s a lot of things you can do to get — it might not be as close as having that person right next to you but it’s pretty darn good. Now, there’s people who say, “Well I really can’t afford that.” Well, then you have what right now Eric is talking about, somebody who knows what he’s talking about, he’s put together a training program for you and I mean for very little money. I mean if you think about it, you do the math on that, it’s like $10, $20 bucks a month. No, what am I talking about? For a 12 week block. You’re paying like three bucks a month for a training routine, training program.
[0:39:45.6] EB: Exactly man.
[0:39:46.5] RT: Yeah, you’re getting high quality and guys, I want to just put this out there right now, if somebody’s trying to sell you something that isn’t personal coaching for $100 plus. Some preprogrammed thing that doesn’t take your personal type of situation into account, it doesn’t give you feedback, be very careful of that, okay? Because somebody’s trying to rip you off.
What Eric’s doing here is, he’s pricing this very favourably, even at full price, this is still very favourably priced and also, as I mentioned, the nice thing is, you know what you’re getting, explain to you like this program is designed to give you this results, it’s not just some random thing you’re finding online, you’re not exactly sure what this is supposed to give you and Eric knows his stuff. He’s researched this which is great.
As I always say man, look, at the end of the day, it depends as to whether or not this is resonating with you. If this sounds like something that’s up your ally then I would say reach out and check it out man, it’s very inexpensive to do and having a coach, mentor in person is ideal then you can have somebody remote and then the third option would be getting your hands in a program. A very well designed program that’s based in science, that’s based in improving systems, it’s structured in a manner that you can follow without having, without getting lost.
It has not just the routine itself but as Eric has done here, he’s provided you with substitutes for certain exercises. So if there’s a movement that you’re not very comfortable with, don’t do that movement if you don’t have the proper training or coaching. Maybe you can find somebody locally to teach it to you, that would be ideal. But if not, then stick with the one that you can do because there’s no benefit in getting all jacked up or doing the movement inefficiently, that’s really not good for you either.
You’re not going to get the results, let alone just the potential to getting injured. He also has a video as well. Now Eric, if people want to get support after picking this up, is there any way that they could shoot an email over to you? Is there any membership group or forum or something like that they can, like Facebook group or something?
[0:41:42.8] EB: The best way is going to be on social media. Facebook — Facebook.com/bachperformance. The page is very active, they’ll be very active going forward especially with the power parameter coming up. For the most direct access, actually Snapchat is probably the way to get a hold of me these days.
[0:41:56.7] RT: For real?
[0:41:57.0] EB: For real man, it’s a good time. Although you might get quite a few dog pictures but so Snapchat @bachreric is a really good spot. If you go to direct question, I can hit you back on that right away really faster than any other platform.
[0:42:11.7] RT: Okay cool. I mean, there’s a support aspect to this as well?
[0:42:14.8] EB: Exactly.
[0:42:15.8] RT: I mean, come on man, you’ve got to be kidding me. There’s options out there for everybody guys, there’s a variety of ways that you can train, which is awesome. There’s a variety of personalities when it comes to coaches, that’s awesome. There’s a variety of different levels, like I said, coach, in person, remote, virtual and giving your hands on a program like this here, pre written program. There’s options out there for people man, for everybody. There’s no excuses nowadays not to get quality coaching in one form or another. Eric, I appreciate you coming on the show man.
[0:42:45.8] EB: Hey, I appreciate having me, it was a blast to talk shop a little bit and tell everybody about the Power Primer. I’m happy to be here and I’m glad everybody can hopefully take something from this show and apply directly to their training right away.
[0:42:57.1] RT: Excellent man, definitely and it is ThePowerPrimer.com.
[0:43:07.4] EB: I’m in URL battles right now, everybody trying to take all the websites I want.
[0:43:10.9] RT: Yeah, exactly. ThePowerPrimer.com and you guys will find everything you need there. Now, SuperStrengthShow.com, you put in the search bar Eric Bach, you will have his other episode will come up as well, recommend you listen to it if you haven’t already. This one will come up as well and you know, you can listen to it there again, you can download it, you can share with others with the social media buttons that we have on there.
There is links to the various podcasting platforms we are on, you could listen to the show there or ideally sign up if you haven’t already. That way there the show comes directly to you, which is the best way. You don’t have to remind yourself to go check it out and we got shows coming out all the time man, you don’t want to miss anything, right?
Also, there’s an ability to leave a review, we really appreciate it when you leave a review for us, it does a lot of things and one of the things that it does for us is that it raises the show on the rankings like in iTunes for example. That’s good because it gets more eyeballs on the show, more people get to get in on the fun and on the good stuff, and they get the benefit from all these great guest and great information that’s on the show.
That’s wonderful but it also benefits you as well because what it does is, it allows guys like Eric to realize, “You know what? This is a show with an engaged audience and it’s worthwhile for me to come on and make this platform that I can benefit from and make it worth my while.” So five star reviews in iTunes go a long way. You can leave reviews on stitcher, that’s also beneficial. We appreciate all of that and for each and every one of you who have already done that, thank you so much, it means a lot, it really does.
I know there’s a lot of shows out there that you could tune in to when you decide to tune into these one here, it means a lot to myself and the team and when you go out of your way to write that review, it makes us pretty happy over here. Because ultimately, like Eric and the guests that come on here, we want to help you guys, cut through the BS and get to the good stuff and avoid the morass and the getting lost in the forest and the woods and not knowing which direction to go in, we have a wide variety of guest to come on the show.
Certainly there’s going to be somebody that has a training method and ideology and the personality type that will resonate with you and at that point in time, it’s up to you to put the stuff to use. On the show notes page, we’ll have links to various ways to get a hold of Eric. We’ll have all sorts of videos and just a bunch of stuff on there. Social media, Snapchat, all that stuff to get a hold of and will be on there, a lot of good stuff, highly recommend you check out the show notes page.
You could sign up for the weekly tips there, you get information on what shows are coming out, you’ll also get tips on for training and you also get the free report that shows you how to maximize your strength while minimizing your risk for injury. Very important, don’t forget that guys. It’s there for you to take, it’s there for the taking. Sign up for the newsletter and you’ll get a hold of that. I highly recommend you do that. Feedback@superstrengthshow.com. Good, bad or fugly, let us know guys, take it all into consideration.
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That’s about that. Eric, one last time, thank you so much.
[0:46:18.7] EB: Hey, thank you for having me, thank you everybody for listening and pick up your Power Primer at ThePowerPrimer.com and leave Ray an awesome review.
[0:46:24.8] RT: Thank you so much guys. Thank you, I really appreciate that. Take advantage of this guys, Eric’s been really kind, he’s providing that discount so make sure you guys take advantage. And no, I’m not — he didn’t pay me to come on the show to do this, I’m just going to put that out there. If I do choose to be an affiliate for him, I will make it very clear that that’s what this is. So I want to put that out there too.
I know some guys, maybe they’re getting an envelope under the table to get people to come on the show. There’s none of that crap going on here. Anyway, Eric’s a great guy, good info, take advantage of it and as we always say, put this stuff to use and until next time, train smart, train hard and we’ll talk to you then.
More Specifically in this Episode You’ll Learn About
- Eric shares his story of how he started Bach Performance
- What is The Power Primer?
- What makes The Power Primer different from other training programs?
- The benefits of maximum explosive intent
- The Size Principle
- The benefits of lifting lighter weights at a faster pace
- How you can increase muscle fiber recruitment
- Creating real world carry over with your training
- Tips and techniques for measuring your rep speed
- Neurofatigue vs. Neurorecovery
- What to expect with The Power Primer workouts
- Choosing the right exercises within a movement pattern
- Who is the Power Primer program designed for?
- Intramuscular Coordination
- Eric lays out an exercise from the program that you can apply and test out today
- Overhead sandbell slams
- How to prepare yourself mentally for explosive movements
- Eric explains the three 12 week Power Primer programs – Athletic Muscle Guide, Fat Loss Program, Athletic Strength Program
- The Power Primer – 50% off between April 7th– April 9th at 11:59 PM.
About Eric Bach
Eric is a certified Strength and Conditioning Coach and Precision Nutrition Certified Coach. He has Bachelors of Science degree, emphasizing in sports performance training.
Eric is also a fitness author and the owner of Bach Performance. His writings on performance and body composition training have been featured in numerous publications from CNN, Huffington Post, T-Nation, the PTDC, and bodybuilding.com to the American Council on Exercise.
To connect with Eric, you can visit his website at BachPerformance.com.
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Training Resources Mentioned in this Episode
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Very informative. Top guests
- Great Show!April 10, 2015 by SloneStrength from United States
Well prepared show. Amazing professionalism! Keep up the great work.
- AWESOMENESS CONTAINTEDMarch 4, 2015 by jamie729 from United Kingdom
This is an awesome podcast the format, the guests & the topics disscussed are all truely infomative. No BS contained the show always opens up new schools of thoughts and ideas to the listeners. keep up the good work.
- Subscribe, instantly addictiveMarch 2, 2015 by thebroadkaz from Canada
This show is amazing to listen to it motivates you not only for the gym but for setting and achieving goals in your every day life. Very motivating and positive. Truly helps to get you in the right frame of mind for life and for the gym.
- An absolutely ace show everytimeFebruary 24, 2015 by Tommy Eggleton from United Kingdom
This show is phenomenal! The format and repeated questions for each episode keep the show driving forward, the guests have had ample time to prepare excellent and considered opinions and yet the show never feels like anything but no-BS conversations on building seuperhuman strength and mighty bodies. The host, Ray Toulany, consistently does a marvellous job of drawing out even more from his guests than the material they've prepared and some of the stories that are teased out are superb. I wholeheartedly recommend this to anybody that trains, thinks about training, or simply admires strength sports and bodybuilding in general.
- Great ResourceFebruary 4, 2015 by Velvet Jones81 from United States
For someone new to the strength sports like myself this show has been a great resource. Thanks for doing this show. It has helped a lot.
- Paul McIlroyFebruary 2, 2015 by Paul McIlroy from United Kingdom
I've been an avid aficionado of all things strength and physical culture related for the vast majority of my entire life. As a former world champion powerlifter and trainer of world champions in different strength sports I can honestly say that Ray Toulany's Super Strength Show is an absolutely INVALUABLE resource for those wishing/needing to maximise their holistic understanding of strength, what it is to be strong, why that is important and how to best achieve it! The list of guests reads like a star studded "who's who" of strength and conditioning ROYALTY! Plus, more than anything the interviews are a ton of fun and provide a fascinating insight into the very best in the business and what makes them tick. It was my complete pleasure and privilege to be a guest on this amazing show (episode 37). If YOU claim to be serious about strength training and are not currently subscribed to THIS show, my honest advice is do so immediately...if not sooner!
- Super Strength ShowJanuary 26, 2015 by Joeino from United States
I love this podcast as I seem to pick up valuable information from each guest. Listing to this is a fun and productive use of my time
- Excellent InformationJanuary 26, 2015 by TaylorrrrNB from United States
These guys obviously do their homework, work hard to create an excellent show and know who to interview in the world of strength and fitness! I’m very impressed by what they have created and the quality of what they do. You need to subscribe! TODAY!!
- by Brandon RicheyJanuary 22, 2015 by Great Work SSS from United States
The Super Strength Show is a fantastic resource for all things concerning strength, fitness, and life. The multitude of guests provides tons of information and perspectives that every listener will appreciate. If you’re serious about strength and the physical culture this is a resource that you just can’t pass up!
- Very glad I stumbled across this podcast!January 22, 2015 by rk102 from United States
Great info from big-time guests in the strength and conditioning world. Keep up the great work, Ray!
- Awesome showJanuary 13, 2015 by Bonjower from Canada
The Podcast is the best I’ve encountered in the fitness/bodybuilding sector. The host has a great ability to pull the pertinent information out of his guests. The topics are great and you seem to be able to get useful information out of every interview! Awesome podcast!!
- Do yourself a favour and subscribeJanuary 1, 2015 by GameOverBoss from Canada
The amount of info and resources in the SuperStrengthShow is just incredible. All of this coming from guests that are the best of the best in their fields. Great questions are asked to these guys and some really insightful answers given (along with a few laughs). I hate wasting time and i'm always looking to evolve and refine my training. This podcast has saved me hours of digging through the crazy crap on the internet to find valid info. It has also introduced me to things i would have never thought to look up. Really can’t recommend enough.
- Master SFGDecember 24, 2014 by X-Fab69 from Italy
Awesome Podcast! A whole lot of great and useful information provided by very accomplished athletes and coaches with an extended experience on the ground!
- Charles CDecember 22, 2014 by CharlieConnely from Canada
Very impressed with the quality guests that the Super Strength Show is interviewing. Loaded with with actionable and inspiring information. Great production quality and daily episodes!
- Well done RayDecember 19, 2014 by Matt McWilliams from United States
Wow…Super Strenght Show Podcast is flat out awesome. Good production quality. Easy to listen. Very impressed Ray. Keep bringing it.
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